GUN Damn in Now the Doctors are in on it

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  1. [DWI]

    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    The American Academy of Pediatrics

    http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;105/4/888

    1. The AAP affirms that the most effective measure to prevent firearm-related injuries to children and adolescents is the absence of guns from homes and communities.
    a) Firearm regulation, to include bans of handguns and assault weapons, is the most effective way to reduce firearm-related injuries.

    b) Pediatricians and other child health care professionals are urged to inform parents about the dangers of guns in and outside the home. The AAP recommends that pediatricians incorporate questions about guns into their patient history taking and urge parents who possess guns to remove them, especially handguns, from the home. Loaded firearms and unlocked firearms and ammunition represent a serious danger to children and adolescents. At especially high risk are adolescents who have a history of aggressive and violent behaviors, suicide attempts, or depression.30,68,71
    2. The AAP urges that guns be subject to safety and design regulations, like other consumer products, as well as tracing.
    a) The AAP supports efforts to reduce the destructive power of handguns and handgun ammunition via regulation of the manufacture and importation of classes of guns. Engineering efforts (eg, personalized safety mechanisms and trigger locks) are of unproved benefit and need further study. (Trigger locks, lock boxes, and other safe storage legislation are encouraged by the AAP, until guns are fully removed from the environment of children.) Other such measures aimed at regulating access of guns should include legislative actions, such as mandatory waiting periods and/or background checks.
    3. The AAP urges the development of quality, violence-free programming and constructive dialogue among child health and education advocates, the Federal Communications Commission, and the television and motion picture industries, as well as toy, video game, and other software manufactures and designers, in an effort to reduce the romanticization of guns in the popular media.

    4. The AAP supports the evaluation of firearm injury prevention and intervention strategies such as conflict resolution, alternatives to violence, storage techniques (eg, trigger locks, lock boxes, and gun safes), and educational programs for children and adolescents.72

    5. The AAP urges that a coordinated, comprehensive, national surveillance data system be maintained by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as well as the National Center for Health Statistics.

    6. The AAP supports the education of physicians and other professionals interested in understanding the effects of firearms and how to reduce the morbidity and mortality associated with their use. Organizations such as the Handgun Epidemic Lowering Plan may work with the AAP and individual chapters to foster an advocacy network to protect children from injury and death from firearms.

    American College of Physicians

    Support the Gun Violence Prevention Act

    http://www.acponline.org/hpp/mccarthy99.htm

    American Medical Association

    http://www.ama-assn.org/apps/pf_new...99.HTM&nxt_pol=policyfiles/HnE/H-145.978.HTM&

    H-145.985 Ban on Handguns and Automatic Repeating Weapons

    It is the policy of the AMA to: (1) Support interventions pertaining to firearm control, especially those that occur early in the life of the weapon (e.g., at the time of manufacture or importation, as opposed to those involving possession or use). Such interventions should include but not be limited to: (a) mandatory inclusion of safety devices on all firearms, whether manufactured or imported into the United States, including built-in locks, loading indicators, safety locks on triggers, and increases in the minimum pressure required to pull triggers; (b) bans on the possession and use of firearms and ammunition by unsupervised youths under the age of 18; (c) the imposition of significant licensing fees for firearms dealers; (d) the imposition of federal and state surtaxes on manufacturers, dealers and purchasers of handguns and semiautomatic repeating weapons along with the ammunition used in such firearms, with the attending revenue earmarked as additional revenue for health and law enforcement activities that are directly related to the prevention and control of violence in U.S. society; and (e) mandatory destruction of any weapons obtained in local buy-back programs.
    (2) Support legislation outlawing the Black Talon and other similarly constructed bullets.
    (3) Support the right of local jurisdictions to enact firearm regulations that are stricter than those that exist in state statutes and encourage state and local medical societies to evaluate and support local efforts to enact useful controls. (BOT Rep. 50, I-93; Reaffirmed: CSA Rep. 8, A-05)


    http://www.ama-assn.org/apps/pf_new...99.HTM&nxt_pol=policyfiles/HnE/H-145.978.HTM&

    H-145.996 Handgun Availability

    The AMA (1) advocates a waiting period and background check for all handgun purchasers; (2) encourages legislation that enforces a waiting period and background check for all handgun purchasers; and (3) urges legislation to prohibit the manufacture, sale or import of lethal and non-lethal guns made of plastic, ceramics, or other non-metallic materials that cannot be detected by airport and weapon detection devices.:rofl: (Res. 140, I-87; Reaffirmed: BOT Rep. 8, I-93; Reaffirmed: BOT Rep. 50, I-93; Reaffirmed: CSA Rep. 8, A-05)

    This may be old news to you guys, but I personally just came across is.
     
  2. kill_turu_kill

    kill_turu_kill Turu the Terrible OT Supporter

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    Unfortunately, the AMA has a long history of being anti-gun.

    EDIT: And the rest of those other organizations too.
     
  3. copperhead035

    copperhead035 New Member

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    and the best way to prevent turboaids is abstinance, what's their point?
     
  4. vettefan52

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    for being so smart, they sure dont have much common sense.
     
  5. Alphaeus

    Alphaeus New Member

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    Well its the same as abstinence-only education. Sure, if people never had sex they wouldn't get stds and preggo. Just like if no one had guns, no one would be hurt by them.

    But what these fucking idiots don't realize is that people are always going to be fucking each other and shooting each other, so we might as well teach them to use their respective tools safely.
     
  6. Bdog

    Bdog ...but do I really care?

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    Wouldn't you think there are more hunting-related injuries than "assault weapons" injuries? Yes, we've had a main stream media CA bank robbery and a sniper in VA, but there are always hunting injuries that don't make the national news.
     
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    Wow, I never knew doctors had massive amounts of technical knowledge about guns and their use in crimes. I wonder if I should go to the NRA for advice on how to live a healthier life style.
     
  8. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    It sounds like these tards just listened to a bunch of firearms myths and then decided to write proposals about them without doing any actual research.
     
  9. Gimik

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    shouldn't they be anti-smoking and drinking and swimming pools etc before guns if they're only trying to save lives?
     
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    Shouldn't they be banning cars? They cause way more injuries
     
  11. Thunderbear

    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

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    They are anti smoking. I'm sure they have no small part in those stupid fucking "Truth" ads.

    Swimming pools are the most interesting point. Your child is about a hundred times more likely to die in a swimming pool than a gun related death. But, as they contrast it in Freakonomics, the violent, gory death is a fearful way to go. No one cares about heart disease, it's boring, slow, and takes a long time to die, so no one fears it. Gun deaths are short, violent and messy, and the horror of that juxtaposed on an 'innocent' engender some of the stupidest laws I've ever seen. You cannot legislate responsibility, any more than you can legislate morality. Law, or no law, the people's decisions on how to act are their own.
     
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    they may be "anti-smoking", but I don't see them trying to BAN it. If they were doing the truth-type adds against gun ownership, sure I wouldn't care. Trying to pass legislation to remove them from the hands of law-abiding citizens is quite different though.
     
  13. Thunderbear

    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

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    Where are you looking? I see it everywhere, and I live in Marlboro Country. Winston-Salem is just a few hours away. It's socialism, snuck in as health legislation.
     
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    I guess all the public smoking legislation could count along those lines... and yes, I agree with the hidden agenda (not very well hidden I might add) observation. I guess it just seems so obvious to me that it is NOT health legislation that I find it hard to believe that more people don't call them on it. All you would have to do is go down the list of causes of lethality and see where gun-related accidents lie, you can see how full of shit these guys are. I know, preaching to the choir... :hs:
     
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    my dr tried to make a big deal out of guns after i took off my ccw last time i was in for a checkup.
    i handed her this form regarding providing advice about firearms, asked her to sign it.
    she shut up.



    cant find the form at the moment, ill post it when i get home.
     
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  17. Paul Revere

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    who gives a shit about what some quack says about firearm laws :ugh: the next time i want an opinion about something from someone who knows fuck all, i'll email Sarah Brady
     
  18. Slick26

    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    If my children's pediatrician(s), or anyone else from their clinic, ever confronts me about guns in our home, or ever tries to imply I should get rid of them, I WILL take my children and walk out; thus ending the conversation immediately. I don't care how rude they think I am. Fuck them.
     
  19. t1h

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    because they have lobbying groups that will push for gun legislation to "protect the children"
     
  20. Slick26

    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    Think of the children.
     
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    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    right, because when an organization (such as the FBI) posts stastics about how gun crime doesnt stop when you ban guns, the children are in serious danger :rolleyes:
     
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    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    Children are only in danger of household firearms because their parents are morans.
    That's a problem with the parents, not the firearms.
     
  23. TheHunter

    TheHunter Unprofessional Lurker

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    My children's doctor actually asked me a few years ago as part of a survey the AMA was running. Told him "Yes, several" and also told him I had a pool as well. Went on to ask whch was more dangerous for children and why wasn't the AMA more concerned over the pool. He has never asked me another off-topic question to this day.
     
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    i bet pools and bad parenting are more responsible for toddler death than any other cause.

    8+ years in medical school != reasonable knowldege of firearms.
     

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