Diet and cardio have been in check for about 1.5 months now and going into month 2 I want to start a cutting supp. before my gains start to slow down. I am already down about 5lbs and 3% b/f. Last year when I cut down I used that Scivation Thermo/Sesamin stack that BN had for only $35. I don't see that deal happening again so I am looking for options. I was thinking about ephedrine/caffeine stack because it is cheap and effective. I know the debate of "what works" is too contraversial, but just wondering if anything is out there that people are getting solid results from ATM. I am not interested in ripped fuel, hydroxycut, etc... 5' 9" 218 if anyone cares. Thanks.