Cut then bulk, or bulk then cut?

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  1. The Cable Guy

    The Cable Guy New Member

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    Is it up to personal preference, or is there a science to this? currently I have a little more fat than I want or need, would like to lose it, plus the gut. I've been lifting more weight less reps.
     
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    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    cut then bulk imo
     
  3. HorseDick

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    How you lift isn't really going to matter as far as reps and whatnot...doing intense compound movements is the most important thing in terms of lifting.

    As far as whether you should cut or bulk, the leaner you are, the leaner your gains will be so it's best to get as lean as possible before bulking...especially if you're been fat before.
     
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    get lean first, then just eat right and slowly add calories. It will take time, so don't get all caught up in "bulking", you will more than likely come out worse off.
     
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    I think the problem isn't bulking, it's that a lot of people tend to adopt the mindset that bulking = eating as much as you want of whatever you want, and then further complicate things by not having the necessary intensity and progression in the gym.

    I think it's also dangerous the other way around though - some people get too hung up on leanness and "slow gaining" that they never actually gain anything appreciable.

    Pretty much "eat right and slowly add calories" is what bulking should be.
     
  7. Mitchj

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    if you maintain weight and get into training you will find you lean up alot

    if you have never trained before and have no idea how to add muscle do not bulk

    and if you have a gut you would be better of cutting
     
  8. Mitchj

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    ive wasted heaps of times not putting on weight, i maintained around 180lbs for well over a year, and got very little gains

    i dont eat that clean, but now ive gotten up to 200lbs i notice big increases, im keen to keep going until 220.
     
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    Bacchus. :rofl:
     
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    Its all about diet is by far the best advice anyone can be given or can take in regards to whatever your physical goals are.

    But that being said, this is a sage key to the puzzle that a lot of people who figure the diet out still miss. Good Advice Tumbles :bigthumb:
     
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    I started browsing this forum when the "BULK BULK BULK SQUATS MILK" fad was rampant. I bulked first. I should have cut first.
     
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    I don't think that's a fad :confused:
     
  14. Mike Hawk

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    definitely cut to where you want to be, then slowly bulk
     
  15. Mitchj

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    you probably had 0 muscle
     
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    If you have 0 muscle, but too much fat it's not a good idea to bulk. If I could do it again I would have been somewhere right below maintenance to lose fat and put on muscle at the same time while I could take advantage of newb gains.
     
  17. Mitchj

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    i agree
    what type of weight and height are we talking here though

    if your say 180 at 5'10 with no muscle, you definitely should cut
     
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