Cut Diet vs. Anabolic Diet?

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  1. crucialkc

    crucialkc the earth is flat

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    which do you think is better as far as preserving LBM and losing BF?

    in case you didn't know, the cut diet's macros are pretty much 41 protein/17 carb/42 fat and you do one carb refeed meal every 3 days

    the anabolic diet's macros are something around 35 protein/5 carb/60 fat and you carbload on weekends
     
  2. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    Cut Diet, even though i have a few problems with it
     
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    crucialkc the earth is flat

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    will they both yield the same results as far as the gaining of lbm?

    also, what probs do you have with the cut diet??
     
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    theirs a version 2 for the cut diet comming out soon.
     
  5. crucialkc

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    what's wrong with the original cut diet?
     
  6. el es dee

    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    nothing, version 2 just has twice as much bandwagoning!
     
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    the big thing is they suggest no carbs postworkout
     
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    They do that to contrl insulin but they suggest taking BCAA instead :hsugh:
     
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    hitmikey DRIVEN FROM WITHIN

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    i dont know the science of it but if i dont get some carbs after a workout i never regain my energy level...in fact, sometimes i get the shakes
     
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    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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    ive stopped taking whey and post workout carbs all together. i just use BCAA's and creatine. ive made some good gains in the last month in all my lifts and ive definetly seen some great body recomp
     
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    Well, BCAA help recovery but my point was that it's also highly insulinogenic and the author of the Cut Diet suggests to avoid carbs to prevent any insulin spike.
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    that's illogical
     
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    hitmikey DRIVEN FROM WITHIN

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    good shit man. in simple lingo, what are you taking postWO? i just got some XTEND for before/during WO drank bc everyone sweats it on this site but am still trying to figure out the best postWO shake... tried optimum whey, xtreme's relentless, and now a no carb whey isolate but like i said, feelin meager afterwards
     
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    oh yea, and what is the downside to an insulin spike??? we talkin fat storage or something?
     
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    Insulin is a anabolic hormone, which means that it favors the creation of new cells. The good thing is that it can help muscle hypertrophy but it can also help store glucose (carbs) as fat if your glycogen stores are full. If not, (like after some exercise), glucose will replenish glycogen stores. So avoiding carbs altogether during or after a workout is useless since it doesn't affect body composition and, in trained individuals, it doesn't affect fat burning.
     
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    but it could affect body comp if you don't reach hypertrophy and u end up storing glucose youre just saying that it will tend not to affect fat burning, especially in "athletes"
     
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    pretty much 10g Xtend and 5g creatine PWO
     
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    As long as theirs no dietary fat around, and you've done a good job depleting glycogen, there is nothing wrong with a huge insulin spike. In fact, it may be highly beneficial.
     
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    :werd: I certainly dont believe in his refeed strategy
     
  20. crucialkc

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    I've been doing his macros and have been eating at similar times with similar meal content... only using protein, creatine mono, and fish oil supps.. and doing a carb refeed that lasts an entire day... 3 days low carb, 1 day high

    also, i consume most of my carbs PWO... I'll drink two scoops of protein during working and after i'll down a glass of OJ or milk.. then eat a meal with higher carbs in it than my other meals for that day.
     
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    how would you make it better?
     
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    i would rather have the carbs spread out with all my meals.
     
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