GUN Critique this AR build

Discussion in 'On Topic' started by cjj92yj, Feb 22, 2008.

  1. cjj92yj

    cjj92yj Guest

    All prices include shipping/handling

    - J&T Distributing ~ 16" CAR kit $587.72
    6-Pos. DS-4 Stock, Flattop Upper, Picatinny Rail Gas Block,
    Free-float Ntl Match Handguard ($50 option), Standard Bolt Carrier,
    Standard Charging Handle, Standard Lower Kit, standard grip,
    A-2 Flash Hider, HBAR Chrome Lined 16" barrel ($50 option)

    - Gear Point ~ ASP Black Single Point Sling ~ $32.85

    - Gear Point ~ SPRE-R Sling Mount ~ $25.20

    - 1337tactical ~ 1x30MM Red Dot Scopt w/ Mount (Fakepoint) $83.55

    - I'll pick up a stripped lower at the fun show when it rolls into town next
    month for around $130 I figure. I'll probably end up with a DPMS.

    Total minus stripped lower = $729.32


    I just bought 20 magazines on that group buy as well. I was originally trying to keep it under $800 (had to say that to appease the wife). If you break it all down, the rifle will be under $800. :bigthumb: It's just the accessories that bring it a bit over the top. :rofl:
     
  2. chakup

    chakup Guest

    Do you want a HBar 16" rifle? What's the goal for the build?

    If I was going 16" I'd want something lighter weight, that's just me. J&T I've heard decent things about. Keep in mind though you could pick up an LMT upper for about the same as the kit- yes you'd have some small parts to buy, but better quality.

    The only thing if you want that kit- I'd upgrade the grip. I hate the Std a2 grip. damn uncomfortable. Either go with the ergo grip, or I'll send you a MIAD for a deal. I have a black one sitting here.
     
  3. ZCP M3

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    Can I get in on the MIAD deal if he passes? :naughty:
     
  4. Hooch

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    If it works it will be effective, ARs are ARs, if you have one that functions more power to you, only on the internet do you have to have a Stag, or RRA, or POF, if you have DPMS or an Oly and it functions who cares it will get the job done, you don't need an M4 profiled barrel, or a pencil barrel. I would stay away from Single Points though they suck and get in the way and your weapon bangs everything under the sun if you actually have to carry it and are typically used by SWAT guys who the majority of are just Socialist trained rookie cops who have no idea what their weapons intended use was anyway.
     
  5. cjj92yj

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    I'll probably upgrade the grip, it's cheap.

    The goal for this AR is to have a fairly light-weight rifle that would be nice for stalking bunnies & prairie dogs on occasion, as well as a fair mix in of 400 yard shots when hunting coyotes. I figured the short 16" would reduce weight, while the HBAR of it would increase a bit of accuracy at the 400 yard range. I understand a lightweight barrel will be nearly as accurate at the range, but won't dissipate the heat I may need for follow up shots to be every bit as accurate.

    What kind of deal we talking on the MIAD? shoot me a PM, I may have you include it in the magazine order I placed yesterday morning if it hasn't shipped yet.
     
  6. Hooch

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    Sounds like you need a 20-24 inch barrel and a powered optic
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    I think you'd be better served by a light-medium profile barrel. As the guy above said too a non-magnified optic seems counter to your purpose.
     
  8. chakup

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    PM sent
     
  9. chakup

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    for that range you want a longer barrel- more velocity.
     
  10. cjj92yj

    cjj92yj Guest

    You're right perhaps about the optic. I intend to eventually upgrade that part. I'm not fully set up to be hunting dogs now anyway. I've got another year or two of collecting before I'm ready for that.

    Would an 18" barrel suffice for 400 yard range? I really don't want to get 20" or more as this needs to be versatile for packing around hunting prairie dogs and rabbits.
     
  11. Hooch

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    You gonna chop a 20 to 18? I'd go with a 20 inch barrel and not waste time cutting off 2 inches and threading it.
     
  12. cjj92yj

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    I could have swore I've seen some 18"ers out there. I've been searching sites so much lately, maybe I was just hoping someone did.:x:

    I think too much emphasis is being placed on the 400 yard range part. That will be down the road a few years. Even then, it would most likely be in the 200 yard range, with the 400 yard range being an extreme maximum.
     
  13. Willie J

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    a 20" rifle will serve all ur needs. i just got a free 20" a3 upper and i plan on building a precision rifle now
     
  14. cjj92yj

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    you're probably right. For some reason I keep thinking 20" is super long. In all actuality, it's not too bad.

    So, HBAR or lightweight.
     
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    I've got a 16" HBar, I wish it was a pencil though. :hs:
     
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    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    For what you are doing with the rifle I think you should look at a plain jane 20" A4. I saw a brand new Bushmaster A4 on a table at the last gun show here for $750. People just aren't buying them because they don't look as cool (I think they look awesome) as the M4s. For you it's perfect. You'll have a nice new factory built rifle with a warranty instead of a conglomeration of so-so parts. Don't waste money on the fakepoint.
     
  18. Willie J

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    bushy doesn't offer lifetime warranty, go rra
     
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    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    either one is fine
     
  20. Willie J

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    my first ar was a bushy, my new one is a rra and it feels more solid + 2 stage trigger is a bonus
     
  21. chakup

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    I picked up a 20" bushy upper in their xmas special sale 2 or 3 yrs ago now. It's amazing how well it balances. It will eventually be built up with FF rail, PRS stock.
     

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