GUN Critique my proposed AR build

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  1. rjacobs

    rjacobs New Member

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    I am hoping to start building my first AR in January. Here are the parts I am thinking about currently.

    POF 415 Gen 3 Lower
    RRA LPK
    Some type of match grade trigger(chip mccormick???)
    Magpul Grip
    Magpul CTR stock w. LMT stock kit
    or Vltor EMOD full kit

    I dont know about uppers yet, the POF uppers look really nice, but 1000 bucks is alot when there are traditional gas uppers for 600 bucks. Is the extra 4-500 bucks worth it? I also want to get some type of front grip with a rail system to replace the standard m4 front grip. The Larue 7.0 handgrip looks really nice, anybody here use it? Probably gonna do an Eotech sight. I think im gonna end up spending about 2000 bucks total when all is said and done. I think I can get it done for that price.
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    I wouldn't spend the money for a pistol upper. I'd get a 1:7 twist barrel with a midlength gas system. Larue are probably some of the best floating rails available.
     
  3. Floyd91

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    Save some money and get something like the RRA 2 stage trigger instead of the chip mccormick maybe?

    Check out the equipment exchange on arf
     
  4. Didact

    Didact I have no idea what I'm doing

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    I dunno, but I couldn't imagine paying a grand for an upper.

    Isn't a POF 415 Gen 3 Lower stripped like $250 for a lower receiver? Is billet that important? I dunno, I'm new too -- but you can get a standard milspec forged receiver for $110.

    I figure it you wanna spend 2k before it's all said and done, just order it complete.
     
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    What's the purpose of the gun?

    IMO forget about the POF upper... if you want a gas piston rifle then don't build an AR.
     
  6. rjacobs

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    Gonna be a target gun and home defense. I want to go top of the line, cost no object, its just kind of how I am. I want a billet lower for sure, probably the part of the gun that you will have the longest since everything else can be swapped out. Like I said, I am not super sure what upper I want. Probably wont go with a POF since they are pretty expensive. I can do more with the rest of the gun with the extra 500 bucks.
     
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    sprite Active Member

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    IMO if you're going to dump big money on high end components then pick one goal and build according to that... i.e. high end precision rifle or high end CQB. Otherwise you're going to end up a with a really expensive compromise that is not ideally suited for either.
     
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    Why billet? What's the benefit? As far as metallurgy goes the forged part should have a much better grain structure and be a stronger part (in the way that rolled threads are stronger than cut threads) but the billet one may look cleaner since it is 100% machines and the forged one is only spot machined.
     
  9. rjacobs

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    I am leaning towards a CQB rifle, gonna do a 14.5" barrel with a compensator/flash suppressor to make it 16". I guess when I say target gun, I dont mean 500 yard shooting, 50 and 100 yards probably at best. If I enjoy building this one, I might build another upper for long range shooting like a 20" with a bi-pod and a larger scope. Probably gonna do an Eotech holo sight on this one.
     
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    Just because its more expensive doesn't necessarily mean its better. I don't think you'll see any benefit at all from a billet upper or lower. That doesn't stop alot of people because they just want to know they bought the most expensive parts available, but... Also you need all the velocity you can get with 5.56, I'd stick with a 16" barrel and leave the flash hider as removeable.
     
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    Target != HD. Pick one or the other. In both cases, calibers other than 5.56 are probably better options. If you want to do long range target stuff (like, 500+ yards), take a look at 6.5 Grendel. If you want to do HD and really close in stuff, take a look at the big bore ARs like .458 SOCOM and .50 Beowulf.
     
  12. Clingman

    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    With an Eotech and all that other shit it looks like you're building a fighting rifle... so ditch the match trigger, it doesn't belong.

    The ONLY benefit of a billet receiver is that it looks cooler.
     
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    I kind of want a straight, not curved trigger and I think the only way to get it is to go with a match trigger. Is there any other ways to get a straight and not curved trigger without going to a match grade trigger?
     
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    straight trigger? this ain't paintball lad.
     
  15. THT

    THT The easy way is always mined

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    If cost is no object, this is what I would use for an upper:

    LaRue Stealth upper
    Operator barrel from Denny (www.global-tactical.com)
    Daniel Defense or LaRue 9" rail
    Denny's super duty BCG
     
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    Well, I havent shot a straight trigger before, it was an option on the chip mccormick trigger.
     
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    I dont really want to build the upper, I would like to buy one and change out the forward grip if anything.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    why do you want a straight trigger?
     
  19. bigman7903

    bigman7903 OT Supporter

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    Personally i'd give John Holliger a call @ White Oak Armament, good people out there, i'm sure they'd build something for ya, i love my varmint upper

    They have an SDM upper comming out soon...

    btw iirc Denny's operator barrels are WOA

    http://www.whiteoakarmament.com/
     
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    what does WOA mean?

    I have been looking at his 16" operator barrel.
     
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    bigman7903 OT Supporter

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    White Oak Armament :slap:
     
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    LMAO completly went right over my head, I was trying to make it complicated.
     
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    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    I think you need to just forget about the straight trigger, dude :dunno:
     
  24. kellyclan

    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    Vltor VIS is a nice monolithic upper. Throw a Noveske SS Afghan barrel in that and you have your CQB tackdriver.
     
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    Lightsped Glockaholic

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    I am thinking about buying a complete POF piston AR-15. I figured it will cost around $2k or so, but I if the quality is as good as I have heard, the money isn't a issue....
     

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