Creatine, caffeine & yohimbine HCL simultaneous use?

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  1. Quick Silver

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    I'm currently taking creatine/EE (~1/2 tsp) 1/2 hr before and after workouts,

    I'm thinking of going on caffeine and yohimbine HCL, is it a good idea to take it along with the creatine?

    If so what would be the best time of the day to take it?

    I take 1 prot shake at 8am, another ~1hr prior to workout followed by the 1/2 tsp of CEE 1/2 hr prior to workout
    --- workout @ 10 pm ---
    1/2 tsp of CEE 1/2 hr later, and anohter shake 1 hr after wrkout
    what would be the best time to incorporate the Yhcl & caffeine to this routine?
     
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    I read the whole ECY stack post in the FAQ, they said after much debate that Yohimbine HCL should be taken on an empty stomach to get effects from it. I do it as follows:

    Yohim 10mg + Caff 200mg when I first wake up
    +Moderate cardio, maybe a mile or two of jogging

    About 2 hours later, I eat a healthy breakfast, usually plain oatmeal or a breakfast pita.

    I then add my other supplements, aka, Ephedrine + Caffeine and vitamins... vitamins seem to kill my stomach, so I always wait until after breakfast... I would say this is a good time to do the Creatine, but others may have another opinion.
     
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    Thanks for the quick response,
    so for the yohimbine to work at its best how long should I wait until I can eat breakfast? (in my case a protein shake)

    also, this is my first time taking yhcl, what dosage should i start with? i'm 5'9 165lbs.
     
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    insulin negates the effects of yohimbine, so any time your insulin levels are high, yohimbine isnt working. ie, if you take it with meals, its worthless. i usually take it 2 hours before breakfast (set my alarm), and 2 hours after every meal.
     
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    From what I read, again, I'm not an expert, this is just from other experts, you need .1mg per pound, or 1mg per 10lbs... BUT, they also said work your way up to this amount. I read that if you don't wait at least an hour after you take it, it is completely worthless, as the insulin from eating counteracts the effects.

    Most people say if you've never tried it, start with around 5mg (would be two pills ususally) and then work your way up to the 16.5mg as you feel comfortable.

    If you plan on taking ephedrine with the breakfast, as I stated I did in my previous post, I would recommend at least an apple or banana with your protein shake, otherwise you are asking for a stomach ache.
     
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    btw i dont think creatine and yohimbine have any correlation, so taking them together shouldnt make a difference.
     
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    Thanks to all for the usefull info.

    A few more questions though,
    _ Should I take the caffeine at the same time as the YHCL?
    or should the caffeine be taken w/a meal?

    _ Once I work my way up to the .1 mg/lb is this dose to be taken in one sitting or can it be spaced out between meals throughout the day? (is that what you meant by saying you take it 2 hrs after every meal TheMustafa?)

    I'm planning to give ephedrine a try, but not at the same time as the yhcl, i'm new at using this supplements and I dont want to screw anything up. so i'm planning to use the yhcl for 2-3 weeks, take a week off, and then try the ephedrine +caffeine for another 2-3 weeks. are there any advantages/dissadvantages of doing it this way?
     
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    you can take it at the same time, or at different times. it doesnt much matter. I'd take it at the same time.

    that dose is to be taken spread out throughout the day. all at once would probably kill you.

    do not take E and Y concurrently. do YC for a few weeks, then switch to EC. Alternatively, some people take YC in the morning, and 2 doses of EC throughout the day.
     
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    thanks again :cool:
    i think i'll keep the yhcl and the ephedrine in separate cycles.
     
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    That's what I do, YC morning, two EC's during the day.
     
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    how much yhcl are you currently taking?
     
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    Gods, thank you for beating me to the E and Y warning >< Phew! :rofl:
     
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    7.5mg
     
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