MIL couple questions about enlisting

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  1. LaFinduMonde

    LaFinduMonde New Member

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    first, I'm graduating with a BA in May...

    I'm thinking about enlisting in the Marines: how long does the enlistment process take? Should I go talk to a recruiter some time in advance to discuss physical training, etc?

    Also, if I enlist with ~130 college credits, what rank am I going to be bumped up to?


    I've considered becoming an officer, but I was told on the OCS board that use of mushrooms and LSD pretty much disqualifies one from a higher level security clearance. My record is 100% squeaky clean though...
     
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    Disqualification for high level security just means you cant do a job requiring a high level clearance which most don't need anyway. And with a BA you wont enlist you'll be commissioned a 2nd Lt. Unless you want to go enlisted which would be a waste of a degree then you'll probably go in as a PFC or Lance.
     
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    jbeanz and others of the OT-B

    I keep seeing this sentiment:

    "enlisting with a degree is a waste of said degree...go officer."

    Please educate me on why this is so adamantly believed.

    Note: I work for an admissions office at an MBA school and I've seen numerous applications come in from those who received their BA/BS and then enlisted, and are now pursing an MBA.

    I feel that what a person puts into their time is what they receive in return. So, if someone were to graduate, enlist, and be the best NCO they can be by the time they are done, is it not the same as going to OCS and being the best officer they can be?
     
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    You don't have to disclose anything if it's not on your record........... Lesson learned
     
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    you got it :hsd:

    its an old fashioned system but it is true.
     
  6. LaFinduMonde

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    No, I think I'll enlist, thanks.

    Some people go to college for a higher-paying job. Some, like myself, went for the education. Four years of knowledge and world experience is hardly a waste.
     
  7. LaFinduMonde

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    It isn't my nature to lie.

    Plus, if they did any kind of competent background check, they'd find a lot of my friends experimented with psychedelics as well. Now, again, none of these people have ever been in trouble with the law (ever), but associating with experimental psychedelic users probably isn't a quality they look for in officers. :o
     
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    Also, can somebody answer my initial question: How long does the enlistment process take? I would like to time this so that I can walk out of my house on graduation day and step into basic.
     
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    so you have a college degree and are going to enlist instead of commission?
     
  10. LaFinduMonde

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    Yes. I explained why in the first post.
     
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    fuck it
     
  12. LaFinduMonde

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    Okay here's how it goes: I can't lie without turning bright red. If they don't realize that I am lying when I say, "I've only smoked marijuana a few times- no other drugs," they'll eventually find out from people that I associate with (when they do a background check).

    I've never even had a speeding ticket, but the people on the OCS board made it pretty clear that any use of mushrooms or LSD automatically disqualifies one from becoming an officer.

    :dunno:
     
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    from what i read about enlisting with a degree already in the USMC, you wont be higher than an E-2 because they want people to put their time in. you could go in the army as an E-4 specialist, or the AF as an E-3 i believe. but dont think that just because you have a degree youll make sergeant within 12 months, you still have to put in the same amount of actual time as everyone else that doesnt have a degree.
     
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    Sounds like you are selling yourself short. If you really wanted to enlist you wouldn't have "wasted your time" with an OCS board. You would have gone for the gold and walked into the recruiters office and said "I want to be a United States Marine, how do I sign up"

    I would recommend Army if you are even remotely thinking of the military as a career in the enlisted ranks. Much faster promotions due to a larger sized force reducing the competitiveness. You will deploy somewhere, please don't be jaded and think you won't have to deploy. It's like the Navy people being afraid of ships and not wanting to go on a cruise or whatever they call it :o

    There is strong and there is Army Strong :squint:

    edit: a waiver exists for every situation in the military
     
  15. Julius

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    Also, the army automatically promotes you to E4 due to that four year degree.

    There's also a wide array of jobs that will allow you to deploy and provide reasonable PZ/SZ cutoff scores for E5/E6. You'll find your fix, whether it's combat arms or pogue life.
     
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    you should probably mention what you actually want to do in the military :hs:
     
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    This may sound ridiculous, but I was thinking: 4 years of Marines 03xx then take a flight to France and never return. :o FFL, lulz
     
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    send a PM to Accord ;)
     
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    I've been lurking here long enough to know Accord's glorious biography. :mamoru:
     
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    lol, the infantry is not all fun and blowing shit up. I understand when you say you went to school purely for the education, I did the same thing and dropped out when finance stopped being interesting to me, but you do have to put some thought into your future, the Infantry doesn't have a lot of transferable skills on civvy street.

    I've spoken to a bunch of Marines who were up here (im Canadian, 2 PPCLI) training and they said our basic infantry courses were about the same except ours is longer with more weapons quals, but the shit is not fun, so if you do choose this, be as (cliché) mentally and physically prepared as possible. Nothing will prepare you for a death march at 3am when its -40 or at noon when its +40, but it sure as hell doesnt hurt to be in great shape :big grin:

    btw, when the FFL says Death March, they actually mean it, its a whole other level of suck :rofl:
     
  21. LaFinduMonde

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    100 miles + :noes:
     
  22. WildBull

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    :rofl: this guy is going enlisted with a BA :bowrofl:


    From Marine to recruit.... you're a retard. Glad you're going enlisted.
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl: lets not be too hard on the noob..oh wait fuck him, if he were here at benning i would call him out on fight night cause thats how the infantry rolls son (im not infantry, just in the unit:ugh:)


    he will regret his decision when he goes 03xx, especially when he realizes that most of his fellow marines are under the age of 20 and are more immature than HS girls
     
  24. Julius

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    it's a good thing that la légion étrangère will give a fuck about your prior enlisted 03xx experience, oh wait they won't.
     
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    lol, mop bucket jousting with frag vests > fight night :mamoru:


    I did notice that Marines are generally pretty young, 24-25 yr old sgts all over the place was really weird to me, most our sgts (section comd rank) have 8-10 years in, some exceptional soldiers might make it in 5. Nothing wrong with aggressivess though :bigthumb:
     

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