couldn't lockout 500lbs in the DL- what should i work on?

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  1. igo4bmx

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    i'm thinking my glutes need extra training as well as my upper back?

    amirite?
     
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    didn't you just pull 495 last week? probably just needed to wait a little while to recover. I know sometimes my deadlift, whether it's reps or whatever, is weaker some weeks than others... probably because I pay less attention to form and activating lazy muscles like glutes etc.


    If you pulled 495 you can sure as hell pull 500 I would think.
     
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    yeah i'm anxious and i like to try to max all the time, maybe too much :mamoru:
     
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    ur rite
     
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    deads w/ bands. speed deads
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    word i call my glutes "lazy" just because they don't really activate when I go real heavy as much as they should... I did speed deads for the first time a couple days ago and my glutes are sore as FUCK right now
     
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    why not
     
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    aren't bands more used to develop speed and movement during a lift rather than the lockout or finish?

    ive been doing bench with bands and it helped make my higher weights move faster
     
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    reversed
     
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    You shouldn't need to use bands at a 500 poumnd deadlift at his bodyweight for a long time, if ever. Why not just get stronger instead of jump into special movements?
     
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    fair enough... i guess it's not even 2x bw for him :o

    the PL guys i workout with don't see a problem with using advanced movements when you're weak though. they're still gonna help and they will still work again later when you're stronger... different opinions :dunno:

    i agree w/ keep it simple and just get stronger for myself
     
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    rack pulls never did shit for me....

    high rep DB rows
    pulls standing a block for heavy trips and sets of 5
    RDL's for heavy trips and sets of 5
    GM's off pins




    I honestly still have problems getting my glutes to activate and drive my hips forward at the top of the lift but getting my back much stronger compensated.
     
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    IMO Bulgar4ian split squats, full squats, front squats, and pullthroughs. maybe some lat work.

    If you drive your hips effectively most weight should feel like ti weighs nothing past your knees.
     
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    It also has to do with how you start your pull.

    People who pull by squatting down low at the start with a very flat/upright back will not have much problem passed their knees.

    But most people pull hunched and get hunched over. Thus passed their knees it's very poor leverage to lock the weight out.

    if you look at the big ass pullers like Benni, Bolton, etc.. their leverages allow them to start with their hips high but not be hunched over, their upper backs are relatively flat. Where as most people have leverages where their butt has to be much lower to maintain even a neutral back position.

    This is a problem because most people's lower backs will be stronger than say their quads so starting so low is harder.

    At least that's what i think.
     
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