GUN Cops say they are outgunned

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  1. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Impossible this cann't be true most of these weapons are banned in :california:

    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=local&id=4490629

    F Cops Say They're Outgunned
    Only On 7
    KGO By Vic Lee

    Aug. 23 - KGO - More firearms seizures so far this year, and more powerful weapons seized. That's what San Francisco police are telling ABC7 -- that the cops on the streets are outgunned.

    From January to July, San Francisco police officers have seized 620 firearms. They're averaging 100 weapons a month. They're weapons that could have been used in shootings around the city. Most disturbing is that many of them are assault weapons.

    This is Bayview Station's shooting gallery, pictures of firearms seized this year. Eleven were confiscated just last week. Next to them, the pictures of the shooting victims.

    Many were shot with what police call, "a neighborhood gun" -- a firearm shared by a group of people.

    Morris Tabak, Deputy Chief: "They will secrete it either in a vacant building, sometimes in a vacant vehicle, sometimes in the bushes."

    An AK-47 was found hidden under a baby crib's mattress.

    Of the 620 firearms seized in the past seven months, almost half came from neighborhoods which police call hot zones -- areas with high crime rates: 100 guns from the Western Addition, 50 from the Mission, 80 from Bayview and 60 from the Ingleside District.

    Especially disturbing is that about five percent of the firearms seized are assault type weapons.

    Morris Tabak: "These are what could be described only as anti-personnel weapons."

    Mac-9s, Mac-10s, AK-47s and some models not even familiar to many cops.

    Deputy Chief Morris Tabak showed ABC7 some of the assault weapons. They included a 22-caliber firearm -- modified to hold 100 rounds, a powerful BFG-50 caliber assault weapon and even a Russian made assault rifle. There were also the popular Mac-9s which are small, easy to conceal and can fire 25 to 30 rounds per magazine.


    Gary Delagnes, Police Officers Assn. President: "Just about every crook you run into out there is a drug dealer or a gang banger's got one of these weapons. And it's putting our officers' lives at risk."

    One TEC-9 belonged to a 22-year-old drug dealer who kept getting probation, and was even sent to drug court which is intended not for sellers, but for addicts. Even after his arrest with the firearm, the weapons case was discharged. He was given more probation, but no jail time.

    The standard issue for an SFPD officer is a 40-caliber pistol which holds 12 to 13 rounds per magazine. Police say they're outgunned. The Police Association wants officers to have AR-15s in their cars -- that's the civilian version of the military M-16 rifle.

    Copyright 2006, ABC7/KGO-TV/DT.
     
  2. Razardica

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    They should all learn to use carbines, then.
     
  3. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    Sounds like they're legal system is screwed up.
     
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    Apparently "many assault weapons" in this case means about 30. Whats funny is that so long as the AK isnt banned by make and model, you take off the pistol grip and its pretty much CA ok.
     
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    I don't see anything wrong with that. As long as that's ALL they want to happen.
     
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    so why dont the police get better guns?
     
  7. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Its San Francisco the city politicans probably dont them to have them.
     
  8. Artyboy

    Artyboy Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of

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    It looks to me like they're trying to make things seem a lot worse than they are. I don't see a problem with the cops getting AR's, though. I just hope that they're trained properly.
     
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    100 rounds of .22 ammo!

    Probably a 10/22 with a couple banana clips taped together :rofl:
     
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    what do you mean?

    the media want to make things look worse as they are selling the 'sizzle' or the sensationalism.

    the police want to make things look worse as they want to make sure they are needed and have the appropriate toys

    a state of panic is just what society needs
     
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    sounds like some SF cops went and saw "miami vice" and they got jealous at the hardware the miami guys get to use... i woundnt be surprised if they tacked an offshore racing boat onto the list :o
     
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    Meh, they just need to call Harry Callahan out of retirment.

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    Now THIS seems to be the problem. Not that their out-gunned, but that their criminals are getting gentle slaps on the wrist.
     
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    He'd make them feel not-so-lucky












    punk
     
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    Limp wrists = limp slaps :mamoru:
     
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    You would think the writer of this story wouldn't be so ignorant about guns since they've obviously been playing Doom.
     
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    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    Well they better get bigger guns then.

    Criminals arent just gonna give theirs up.
    If automatics were more easily transferrable like they used to be, cops could afford to buy their own.
     
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    jeanlucpicardholdinghishead.jpg

    I agree there - a .50 BMG rifle can never be an "assault weapon".

    I don't terribly mind if the press calls semi-automatic AK47 or m4gery rifles "assault weapons" because it's very hard for non-gun enthusiasts to differentiate between the semi-auto and automatic versions of the same weapon. Half 'em them are probably unaware of the ATF $200 tax stamp.

    I don't even mind if they call TEC9s and SKS rifles "assault weapons" because submachineguns and scary looking commie rifles would frighten anyone (!!!)

    I do draw the line at single shot bolt action sporting devices like Barrett M95s and the like which have never been used in any crime.
     
  22. Thunderbear

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    610 at PDHSC, I just checked them today.

    Some people were blasting away on the happy switch with Mike's UZI.
     
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    I was just laughing at them calling it a BFG instead of .50 BMG
    However, it is indeed a big fucking gun.
     
  24. Artyboy

    Artyboy Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of

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    I hear you say that about a lot of guns. Obviously you aren't buying anywhere near enough of them.
     
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    a whole 5 percent? :rofl:
     

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