Computer Gods, grant me your blessing!

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  1. GooeyGus

    GooeyGus I has Laz0rz.

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    Well, in about an hour (after i get all my files on the right drives and such) I'll be powering down my current build (amd 5000+ black) and installing the new p35-ds3l and q6600. Hopefully everything goes smooth as silk and I'll see you all in a few hours!! :hsd::hsd::hsd:
     
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    hey I just did the same upgrade basically. went from a 5200+ to a q6600. it runs great but I'm having some issues with vista and overclocking.
     
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    guess things aren't going so well :sadwavey:
     
  4. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Hopefully he is just being careful, and will finish up sometime today.

    :dunno:
     
  5. GooeyGus

    GooeyGus I has Laz0rz.

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    All is well... I was balancing hardware install and trying to make it seem like I wasn't ignoring the girlfriend... :cjerk:

    Everything started up first try, running fine at 2.4ghz

    Now the fun begins :noes:
     
  6. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Make sure you monitor your cpu temps if you're going to overclock it.

    Some people have had some unusually high temps when overclocking the quad.
     
  7. GooeyGus

    GooeyGus I has Laz0rz.

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    They're looking good so far, between 28-30 across the board at idle so far. Wonder what they will look like after the arctic silver 5 burns in....

    Just ran 3dmark06 just for a benchmark test. Scored 11,400. Not bad for a first run! :bigthumb:
     
  8. DaveyD

    DaveyD Fuck Ohio State, son

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    god damn, I want a new computer.
     
  9. GooeyGus

    GooeyGus I has Laz0rz.

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    GooeyGus I has Laz0rz.

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    Oh yea, new 3dmark is 12,300
     
  11. deusexaethera

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    Leave it to a woman to demand attention only when you have something else you're working on.

    Nice machine.
     
  12. GooeyGus

    GooeyGus I has Laz0rz.

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    I've ran prime95 on all four cores for about an hour and a half now, it just barely tickles 50c. Lookin good so far!
     
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    If you feel dangerous, unplug the CPU fan and see how high the temps go. If they stay below 80C, you can leave the fan unplugged indefinitely. Just make sure your case has good ventilation.
     
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    :ugh:
     
  15. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I've had that happen when I was making changes in the services, on the girlfriends computer.
    I'm like "does it look like I can talk while I do this shit!".

    :mad:
     
  16. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    He's probably right. MaximumPc unplugged the fan on a Core 2 Duo, and it never overheated even after an hour of benchmarks.

    Obviously not a good idea for the long run, even though the maximum temp for a quad core is pretty high.
     
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    DaveyD Fuck Ohio State, son

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    I hate you :mamoru2:
     
  18. deusexaethera

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    The long run is the same as the short run. If it doesn't fry in an hour, it won't fry in ten years. CPUs don't have any moving parts to wear out.
     
  19. GooeyGus

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    Yes but heat is most likely what ultimately kills them. I'd be willing to bet a cpu running at 40c would last longer than one running at 80c. even if it takes years for both to burn out
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    No question about it.

    In fact, a cpu running at 55c will die before one running at 40c.
     
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    Bad example. The cpu running at 80c will obviously suffer heat damage.

    As for Doc's example,...

    ... as long as the chip is running within the range of normal operating temps, and does not exceed the defined maximum threshold, the 55c chip could last as long as the 40c chip.

    Way back,.. when there still no Intel Speedstep technology (or AMD's Cool n Quiet),... we do see chips melting, smoking, etc.
    It's different right now. Modern chips have built-in thermal protection. Modern motherboards has fail-safes as well.

    If a cpu gets too hot, it will throttle down and try to cool itself.
    If it doesn't cool down, the motherboard's fail-safes will shut the system off.
    All of these are there to protect the CPU from heat damage.
     
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    I just used 80 becuase the original guy implied that if it didn't fry immediately at 80c, that it would last just as long as any other temperature :noes:
     
  23. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I'm talking about the bell curve that exists with all man made objects when related to basic temperatures.
    Nothing is immune from that.
     
  24. deusexaethera

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    Tell that to my Athlon XP that idled at 75C in a shittily-cooled case for two years before I upgraded to a bigger case. It still runs perfectly; I still use it as my primary machine. Granted, it's my third Athlon XP, but the previous two died because they got cracked by their massive heatsinks putting pressure on them in all the wrong places. (You may recall that Athlon XPs have the bare silicon in direct contact with the heatsink, with no support along the edges of the CPU. That caused all kinds of failures in tower computers running Athlon XPs, but I wised up and bought a shim. No issues since.)

    See, you'd be right about the heat damage thing if it weren't for the fact that all CPUs are made from single silicon crystals. There are no internal faults or facets that can flex and break, at least not under uniform stress. The only way to kill a CPU is to hit it or shock it or improperly attach the heatsink, all of which will cause non-uniform stress. There's no help for you if you do one of those, though the armor they put on top of the silicon nowadays does help if you hit or bend the thing.
     
  25. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    If that were the case, there would be no need for temperature limits on cpu's at all.
    The C2D cpu's run very cool, right? Try putting one on a mobo without the heatsink. I dare ya.
     

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