Comcast Ordered to Stop BitTorrent Traffic Interference

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  1. REVELATI0N

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    ISPs have been throttling BitTorrent traffic for years now, but only recently has this turned into a political issue. In a huge victory for BitTorrent users, the FCC has now announced that it will order Comcast to stop interfering with BitTorrent traffic.

    Almost a year ago we first reported that Comcast was actively disconnecting BitTorrent seeds. Now, after numerous debates and false promises from Comcast, the FCC has ruled that Comcast’s BitTorrent interference is unacceptable, and orders the company to stop doing so.

    Kevin Martin, FCC chairman told AP that Comcast’s BitTorrent throttling is “arbitrary”, and that the company had violated the principles of the Federal Communications Commission. Martin said that Comcast slows down BitTorrent users independent of the amount of traffic they use, and that the company failed to communicate their network management practices to their consumers.

    Indeed, a recent study by the Max Planck Institute showed that the company had misinformed the FCC and their users. Comcast has always argued that BitTorrent upstream traffic was only blocked during periods of heavy network traffic, this turns out to be a lie, as the study showed that they blocked BitTorrent upstream traffic 24/7.

    The FCC has announced that it will take appropriate action against Comcast, and the ISP will be ordered to stop interfering with BitTorrent traffic. Comcast has said before that it will invest in its network capacity and stop slowing down the traffic of their users, but these were all false promises.

    Marvin Ammori, general counsel of Free Press who filed the complaint with the FCC is delighted with this outcome, and said in a response: “Nine months ago, Comcast was exposed for blocking free choice on the Internet. At every turn, Comcast has denied blocking, lied to the public and tried to avoid being held accountable. We have presented an open and shut case that Comcast broke the law.”

    “The FCC now appears ready to take action on behalf of consumers. This is an historic test for whether the law will protect the open Internet. If the commission decisively rules against Comcast, it will be a remarkable victory for organized people over organized money,” Ammori added.

    It is to be expected that - if the pipes are really congested - Comcast and other ISPs will have to step away from the all-you-can-eat plans they have been offering for years, now that people are actually using bandwidth they signed up for.
     
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    Hot damn, now I don't have to be worried when I move and Comcast is the only ISP available in the area.
     
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    i wouldn't be so quick to say that. if you are really using bittorrent and have high bandwidth requirements, you're probably going to be paying more for your internet access.

    honestly, i don't know why they just haven't done this for years. if 90% of the bandwidth is being used by 5% of the users, make them pay more for the extra bandwidth and then use that money to increase the available bandwidth.
     
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    thats awesome
     
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    My ass the pipes are clogged. There's more dark fiber in the USA than lit fiber.
     
  8. deusexaethera

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    I prefer a socialist internet. I pay the same as everyone else, and use it as I need to. I don't want to have to pay more one month, less the next month, just because I had more Windows updates than normal.
     
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    in other news

    http://torrentfreak.com/g8-pushes-anti-piracy-trade-agreement-080710/

    cliffs: the RIAA can diaf
     
  10. trouphaz

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    well, no. i'm figuring there would be a bandwidth cap, though i guess there could be a monthly usage cap too. pay X for 250down/150 up... Y for 500down/250up. Z for 1Mb down/500kbup. you know. instead of throttling speeds, force people to pay for the speed they want.

    that's the way it should work. fuck all you can eat because if there is an asshole that is running BitTorrent on my shared cable line and is fucking up my connection, then he should be paying more to pay for upgrades so my service isn't degraded.
     
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    Start a movement, I'll join.
     
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    No need. It's already that way. They're trying to change it to not be that way anymore.
     
  13. deusexaethera

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    If there's a bandwidth cap, there is by definition a usage cap. If you can't download more than 1Mb/s, then you can't download more than 2.5Tb/mo. The problem isn't the asshole next door running BitTorrent, the problem is the assholes at the cable company who sell your neighbors more than their fair share of the cable's maximum capacity.
     
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    Wonder how long before BHN goes this route?
     
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    i agree that the cable company is full of assholes, but i hate when people run their torrent client 24/7 knowing that they are on a shared link and not caring that they are fucking up everyone else's connectivity.

    oh, and a bandwidth cap only constitutes a usage cap if you are maxing your connection non-stop. if you are, you shouldn't be paying the same as me. it doesn't matter the size of the pipe, the assholes i'm talking about will max it out no matter what the limit is simply because they can. so, have them pay twice as much as me and use that to fund a bigger pipe.
     
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    over-selling is essentially a REQUIREMENT in order to provide the burstable speeds that we demand for a price we're willing to pay.

    There's a reason that business products cost more for the same bandwidth -- because the business statistically use it more fully than their residential counter-parts.

    Look at webhosting.... Dreamhost gives me 8,656 GB of bandwidth per month.... but if I even came close to using that they'd shut me down. It's all smoke and mirrors to make you feel good.
     
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    If people would just stop being asshats and stop with the piracy then everything would be better for everyone. Costs would go down, and speeds would go up.

    Torrents are not inherently bad, but if you remove piracy from torrent usage it basically goes the way of gopher.
     

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