CLA ->to the trash.

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  1. synthetic

    synthetic New Member

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    http://www.ergo-log.com/clatransfattyacids.html
     
  2. evolude

    evolude OT Supporter

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    kilian sends his love
     
  3. kilian

    kilian You've got quite a treasure there in that Horadric OT Supporter

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    why arent you on aim gozirra
     
  4. synthetic

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  5. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    go for it man. eventually you'll be eating dirt only or something
     
  6. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    Aren't CLA's in any ruminant animal? So you're not going to eat any beef from now on?
     
  7. synthetic

    synthetic New Member

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    i keep by cattle meat consumption to about once a month anyways. Now I do take in a lot of whey/casein which from a crap fed animal can probably contain CLA, but then again i keep it fat free as much as possible.
     
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    i enjoy transfats
     
  9. Uglybob69

    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    Shit is poison man. What logical person puts poison in their body? I think you need to cut out all dairy products and beef just to be safe.
     
  10. grimstone

    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    ya synthetic is a hypocrite cut that shit out before you die.
     
  11. Mass

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    I read a great study that showed avoiding saturated fats will only prolong your life by 3 to 6 months
     
  12. Mass

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    Gary Taubes
    “The Soft Science of Dietary Fat”

    Science

    NOTE: A .pdf version of “The Soft Science of Dietary Fat” is also available.

    The reproduction of this article is intended for non-commercial, educational purposes only.

    Part Eight (sidebar): What If Americans Ate Less Saturated Fat?

    Eat less saturated fat, live longer. For 30 years, this has stood as one cornerstone of nutritional advice given to Americans (see main text). But how much longer? Between 1987 and 1992, three independent research groups used computer models to work out the answer. All three analyses agreed, but their conclusions have been buried in the literature, rarely if ever cited.

    All three models estimated how much longer people might expect to live, on average, if only 10% of their calories came from saturated fat as recommended. In the process their total fat intake would drop to the recommended 30% of calories. All three models assumed that LDL cholesterol — the "bad cholesterol" — levels would drop accordingly and that this diet would have no adverse effects, although that was optimistic at the time and has become considerably more so since then. All three combined national vital statistics data with cholesterol risk factor data from the Framingham Heart Study.

    The first study came out of Harvard Medical School and was published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in April 1987. Led by William Taylor, it concluded that individuals with a high risk of heart disease — smokers, for instance, with high blood pressure — could expect to gain, on average, one extra year by shunning saturated fat. Healthy nonsmokers, however, might add 3 days to 3 months. "Although there are undoubtedly persons who would choose to participate in a lifelong regimen of dietary change to achieve results of this magnitude, we suspect that some might not," wrote Taylor and his colleagues.

    The following year, the U.S. Surgeon General’s Office funded a study at the University of California, San Francisco, with the expectation that its results would counterbalance those of the Harvard analysis. Led by epidemiologist Warren Browner, this study concluded that cutting fat consumption in America would delay 42,000 deaths each year, but the net increase in life expectancy would average out to only 3 to 4 months. The key word was "delay," for death, like diet, is a trade-off: Everyone has to die of something. "Deaths are not prevented, they are merely delayed," Browner later wrote. "The ’saved’ people mainly die of the same things everyone else dies of; they do so a little later in life." To be precise, a woman who might otherwise die at 65 could expect to live two extra weeks after a lifetime of avoiding saturated fat. If she lived to be 90, she could expect 10 additional weeks. The third study, from researchers at McGill University in Montreal, came to virtually identical conclusions.

    Browner reported his results to the Surgeon General’s Office, then submitted a paper to The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). Meanwhile, the Surgeon General’s Office — his source of funding — contacted JAMA and tried to prevent publication, claiming that the analysis was deeply flawed. JAMA reviewers disagreed and published his article, entitled "What If Americans Ate Less Fat?" in June 1991. As for Browner, he was left protecting his work from his own funding agents. "Shooting the messenger," he wrote to the Surgeon General’s Office, "or creating a smoke screen — does not change those estimates."
     
  13. ralyks

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    Trans fats != Saturated fats
     
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    So I guess dying of a heart attack would really put a dampener on your fanatical anti-fat worldview, huh?
     
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    so what, I can't eat red meat or whey now? fml
     
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    omg fats oh noes
     
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  18. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    synthetic hates both
     
  19. synthetic

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    not all saturated fats... just i like to keep the lower carbon count long chain fatty acids to a minimum (Anything less than 18:x which raise ldl levels) ... such as Lauric, Myristic ,Palmitic acids.

    THe more higher the carbon count in the fatty acid the more essential it is for your body... such as 22:x +

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_acid
     
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    As soon as I clear a million I will hire a full-time scientist to analyse everything I am considering eating.

    Who cares? Live fast, die strong. Leave a transfat-riddled corpse.
     
  21. synthetic

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    Or live longer to take advantages of progressed human technology to be stronger and more intelligent.

    For example someone who can decide to smoke (or insert other life shortening indulgence) in the 1930s' who not partaking in this act could have made it to the 80s, when steriods where the craze and readily available.
     
  22. kilian

    kilian You've got quite a treasure there in that Horadric OT Supporter

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    Did you ignore ceaze's linked study on the difference in lifespan?
     
  23. synthetic

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    The date the study was done extends 10 weeks. That is with today's technology and nutritional knowledgement... give 10 years of progress it will be probably 10 years extension. Or maybe that 10 weeks might be enough to take the latest drug to come out.

    read ray kurzweil's : the singularity is near
     
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    Ray Kurzweil is full of shit.
     
  25. grimstone

    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    technology will not safe you. you are dieing now man every day closer to death :sadwavey:
     
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