Cisco certifications

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  1. 4thgenceli

    4thgenceli Active Member

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    Anybody here taken the CCENT, CCNA or CCDA recently (as in last 6-9months)?

    Have a few questions for you if you have :)
     
  2. MSTRBKR

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    I got a mate who did some cisco stuff. I could pass on a couple of questions i should think :)

    He did it here in the UK though. I don't know if that would make a difference at all.
     
  3. Vito_Corleone

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    What do you want to know?
     
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    i got my CCNA, total waste of time

    just put on your resume that you're proficient with Cisco's IOS.
     
  5. Vito_Corleone

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  6. Hate Crime

    Hate Crime Don't Hate OT Supporter

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    It's true.. so few businesses use cisco because of the cost vs knowledge vs demanding pay.

    Bad equation.
     
  7. Sexual Vanilla

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    did CCAI for current ccna.
     
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    Hate Crime Don't Hate OT Supporter

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    No need to laugh... in house cisco network tech - no good.:wavey:
     
  10. 7960

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    :rofl:

    correct, they don't have most of the market in any of the areas where they focus. nope, not at all :rofl:
     
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    Hate Crime Don't Hate OT Supporter

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    :ugh: Your 15 corporate enterprises that use cisco don't cover the 50000 small businesses that will not pay for a cisco certified nerd.

    Edit: none of you clearly have any idea how much market share has in small businesses... none what so ever.
     
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    You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
     
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    Yeah most people are asking for microsoft certs around here. If you dont have the microsoft cert or a couple years of experience.
     
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    maybe because mcse and ccna are requirements for two different jobs?

    if you're looking for a job as a welder then having a heavy equipment license would be a plus.
     
  16. trouphaz

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    i laugh at jobs that require any certs. you can tell those job postings are made by HR and not by anyone technical. people get certs to compensate for their lack of experience and useful knowledge.
     
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    I want to get my CCNA but i'm just way too busy with school right now.
     
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    You have to be trolling

    That's a fairly ridiculous assumption to make. I'd like to see you tell a CCIE that they're compensating for their lack of experience and useful knowledge
     
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    absolutely stupid.

    certs are a gating factor.....it's a diploma. if you DON'T have it then you may still know algebra and history and english but the employer will have to work harder to figure out if you really know it or if you're lying to them. if you have the diploma then they can assume a minimum level of knowledge.
     
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    i'm not trolling, though i am making an overly general statement. i don't know cisco certifications from a hole in the wall. but, i do know from reviewing resumes and interviewing people for UNIX, SAN and storage admin positions that anyone with certs knew very little. the same was said from the manager of the windows and dba team. you could also guarantee that a person's skill and knowledge was inversely proportional with the number of certifications they held.

    to 7960, anyone with a book and a little time to study can learn how to pass a cert test and that's what most people do. they don't learn the material, they learn how to pass the test. college, for the most part, is not like that. your proof of knowledge is based on many different tests as well as projects and tasks you must complete during the class.
     
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    that's why it's a GATING criteria. if you put "must have xyz cert" in the job ad then people know what you expect. there's a minimum level of knowledge for xyz cert. sure they can lie and you'll figure that out in your 3rd question in the interview, but it will keep a lot of dead wood from showing up, and if the guy who "knows it" cares he can go get the cert.

    and if you cheat to pass a cert then it's obvious in the interview.
     
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    there was a guy in the tech school I went to that was taking the introductory a+ classes and he had A+ N+ S+ Linux+ and some of the MSCE stuff and he didnt know jack because he studied from a dump site. He thought he could pull it off untill he went to all of the interviews.
     
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    more than once I've seen plenty of certs after a name and 2 minutes into the interview asked the person to leave because he was full of shit.

    gating.......that's the key. they know "anything in the cert if fair game in the interview."
     
  25. trouphaz

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    gating means nothing. the best people i've worked with have 0 certs. i never hired anyone who had a certification that they mentioned.

    i have a certification for HP-UX administration. i got it simply because i knew the material, but after a few interviews found out how useless it was. i got the jobs, but i had at least 2 people tell me to not even bring up the certs because they are meaningless.

    experience is key. it is all that matters.
     

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