GUN CETME or M16A4 clone?

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  1. zumin3k

    zumin3k New Member

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    So, I finally got my CETME...Now I'm thinking I might want to sell it and get a 20 AR in M16A4 fashion... Can't afford both.
    My only other rifle is my M4 profile AR in 5.45.
    What to do? :noes:
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  2. I'm a big AR fan, so I vote for getting the AR.
     
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    The 7.62x51 (a.k.a .308) is a great, hard-hitting round, if you shoot the CETME well I suggest you hold onto it. If, however, the rifle/platform isn't working out for you then switching over to the AR style of gun might be a better choice.
     
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    If the CETME is one that works well I'd keep it, and just get a "20 upper for the lower you have.

    If you sell what do you want for it? Assuming its a good working one.
     
  5. I actually like this plan better. If you can afford the second upper and still keep the CETME, then you get the best of both worlds.
     
  6. xpinchx

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    Why not build an accurized varmint-style AR upper? Or better yet a 6.5 grendel upper. :yum:
     
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    Do what?
     
  8. zumin3k

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    I haven't shot the CETME yet...I hit some financial troubles and put it for sale, had a couple guys very interested, but now I'm getting second thoughts.
    I mostly do plinking, so I'm not sure if the price of .308 is for me...I really like AR's so, the M16 clone would be sweet. The upper is the most expensive part, so if I were to get the upper, I'd rather just spend a couple hundred extra for the lower and have another complete rifle.
     
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    14.5" AR or bust
     
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    Already got one. :wavey:
     
  11. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    I really like the CETME but it fits kind of a strange niche. It's not really suited to take full advantage of the 308's long distance abilities, but it can be a good round for a battle rifle. The problem is, is that 308 is pretty expensive to be shooting with at the 50-100 yard range so for most people it isnt' the best choice for that range. It would make a great SHTF rifle but that's about it.

    Get the AR.
     
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    Ok. I think AR it is. So who wants to trade me a 20" AR for my cetme? :)
     
  13. Is there any reason you want the 20"? You gain a little velocity with it, but it also adds length and weight to the rifle.
     
  14. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    18" is a good happy medium IMO :dunno:
     
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    So I found a local guy willing to trade this [​IMG]
     
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    keep both ftw.
     
  17. zumin3k

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    No raise FTL.
     
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    Update. I'll be trading a guy for this instead.
    What do you think? I might want to sell the upper and go with a regular 20" upper at some point...
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  20. There really isn't a good reason to have a standard 20" barrel. If you like it, that's cool, but it's going to add weight and length to the gun and give you little benefit. At least with a varminter style 20" upper you gain the added stiffness of the heavy barrel. The pic you posted looks pretty nice, freefloat and the heavy barrel will give you good accuracy out to longer distances. One thing to consider is barrel twist, what is it on that barrel? Some varminter barrels use a slower twist because they're counting on using the lighter, faster bullets... just something to check.

    I'll agree with xpinchx though that you should just build a Grendel upper.
     
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    I just wanted a .223 AR again :hs:
    If I stick with that varminter (Stag 24", 1:8 twist) I'll have to get a set of sights for it. Not having standard sights on a gun freaks me out. So I'll have to get a railed gas block and a FF railed handguard as well. I don't like the look of the Aluminum.
     
  22. JP makes an adjustable gas block with a rail on it, that would allow you to mount the front sight, and you could tune the gas system to work best with the rifle. IMHO there's really no need for iron sights on a rifle like that, since its intended use should be outside the realm of iron sights anyways. The way I figure it is it would be a fun rifle to shoot at varmints or punch paper at long range. If you're looking for a SHTF rifle (or one where you are really concerned that an optic failure could mean real trouble), you probably don't want a 20" barrel, regardless of the barrel profile. In the unlikely event that something were to happen to the scope, I'd just pack the rifle up and head home from the range.

    If you really do want to make all those changes to that upper, it would probably be best to pass and just find one set up how you like.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. I don't have any long range ranges out here anyways. I would like an 18" upper, but they're hard to find compared to a 16" or 20". I already have a 14.5", so I figured I might just go with the 20.
    I think I'll see about trading the upper out to someone.
     
  24. xpinchx

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    It seems like you're pretty set on what specifications you want... Why not just sell the CETME locally and piece together/build your upper the way you want it.
     
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    I was just concerned with not being able to find a lower at a decent price (or an upper for that matter) so I figured its easier to trade out for something. I think its actually a good trade for me.
     

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