GUN carrying cocked and locked? I has a question

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  1. HardTech

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    I've come to realize that most of you who carry concealed do so "cocked and locked", with a round in the chamber, hammer back, and safety on.

    When asked why not carry with no round in chamber, hammer at rest, and safety off, you reply "there might not be enough time to rack the slide".

    That's understandable; there might be a situation where you need to pull your gun out and shoot immediately. In a situation like Tom Cruise's character in Collateral, where he kills 2 people, one of whom is shoving a gun in Cruise's eye.

    I don't have much experience with guns, but I do have a Walther P22 and the safety switch is VERY hard to toggle. It'd be a lot easier to rack the slide. Are most guns like that? On something like a USPc, can the safety be disengaged with a flick of the thumb?
     
  2. Pineapple Devil

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    glock safety > *
     
  3. grocerylist

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    Yes the USP safety can be disengaged with a flick of the thumb.
    German engineering > *
     
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    on my USPf, yeah...I can take the safety off with my thumb as I draw it.

    Not sure about the USPc, but I can't imagine there is that much of a difference between the full-size and compact as far as the safety goes
     
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    Most safeties should be pretty easy to switch on and off.
     
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    word.

    condition 1 ftw
     
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    That little safety is a bitch to toggle.
     
  8. HardTech

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    technically speaking, the P22 is also German-engineered :hsugh:

    this forum is pretty active
     
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    i just prefer carrying a Sig229 decocked and use the DA if needed.
     
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  11. Furner

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    The P22 is not really a carry gun, so I wouldnt worry about it that much.
    That being said, you might clean the mechanism on the safety, it could just be to grimey to work right.
     
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    My carry gun is a DA/SA revolver with no safety, but my 1911s have a grip safety and the thumb safety is easily disengage you can even do it in a fluid motion while gripping the pistol.
     
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    Safety? My finger is my safety.
     
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    i don't carry, but if I was, i'd keep a round chambered and on DA mode.
     
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    Agreeing with Furner that the P22 isn't really designed as a defensive carry gun, if it is your P22 or nothing, carry the P22!

    You may consider carrying it hammer down on empty chamber (condition 3) if you find the safety is too small or difficult to practice manipulating. Some people do train to rack the slide on their draw stroke and if you practice it, you ought to be able to bring the gun into action just as quickly. The bigger reason to argue against Cond 3 carry, IMO is that you may not have use or room to use both hands to ready your weapon. (Injury, already defending yourself, inside a car, etc)
     
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    I like the HK DA/SA. First shot is DA and the rest are SA. My Para Carry 12 is an LDA, but it has a grip safety so unless I am holding the gun it won't go off.
     
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    I never said the P22 wasn't German. But I also never said I would carry a P22.
     
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    round in the chamber and ready to go XD ftw
     
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  21. Anders 7

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    I carry Glocks. Chambered and rdy to go, no safeties. Just buy a quality holster and use your smarts and there should be no worries. : )
     
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    p22 is not a carry gun, i have one, so i can say this
     
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    With regards to concealed carry, if you need to pull out your gun and shoot immediately you should be running to get out of that situation. Realistically if you need a gun you're probably going to need it in a real hurry, and you just might be fighting off an attacker with the other hand at the same time.

    I avoid the issue and don't buy defensive handguns with safeties.
     
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    If I pull my carry weapon that means I am intending to stop the threat against me. I would hate to have to toggle a safety, chamber a round, etc. There is no playing around if you ask me.

    If I am pulling my weapon that also means that I have exhausted all other options to difuse the situation, running away, calling for help, etc.
     
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    safties? we dont need to stinking safties..
     

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