Discussion in 'Fitness & Nutrition' started by keeler, Jul 27, 2008.
to maximize fat loss should cardio be done before or after weight training.
i always do it after or i run in the morning and workout at night...
It won't affect more or less fat loss before or after.
The only thing that could suffer is your form when weight training because you are tired from doing cardio before.
I do it after.
actually if you do it before weight training your body will be depleted of glycogen stores thus making weight training pretty pointless.
30 second wait between sets plus cardio after workouts FTW.
after, so you can do the wieght training with maximum effort. And I dontk now if you guys are like me, but after my cardio im usually pretty sweaty and just wanna go home and shower. I dont want to even imagine what it would be like to workout with a drenched shirt.
Wrong. After weight training catecholamine levels are raised which leads to a stimulation of HSL which causes the breakdown of fat stored in adipose tissue.
That being said, for maximal fat oxidation you want to do cardio either in a fasted state (ie when you wake up in the morning and insulin levels are low) or after weight training when catecholamine levels are high which somewhat offset insulins effect on LPL activation.
Cardio in the morning, lifting at night ftw
its really not going to have any major effect in the long run
Doesn't that depend on how intense the cardio session was?
i do 10 minutes of cardio (140 hr) before to get my blood pumping and it also breaks me into a nice sweat (not drenched) so my workout feels kicked off... eliptical or running at 8:30 minute pace shouldn't make you feel tired before you workout... it might not be optimal but i don't like working out without a little sweat going off the get go... just me.
i go 6 minutes warmup, lift, then 20 minutes post lift.
Ya I guess that could be debated. If you were walking for 30min at a hR of like 110-115 I doubt you would be tapping into things.
With what I have to do, I need stamina and the strength. I'm not a powerlifter by anymeans; ex-runner, now into weights, but I also can't get into a good weightlifting mood unless I'm already drenched so I run first. Biochemically, maybe not the best thing, but I'd do 2 mi in 11ish minutes and then go straight to calisthetics and then weights.
Did just 2-3mi like that every day for a month then weights after and ran a marathon in 3hr 33minutes. Cardio wasn't at all bothered; the last 6-7 miles I could feel every muscle being used to just keep my form up instead of just flinging one foot in front of the other.
been thinking of mixing in the cardio for 10-15min after each weight day for a change.
1min every night
For weight loss try bursting.
Do an all out sprint for 1 full minuite. Rest 30 seconds and then repeat.
Total it should take 6 minuites.
You'll lose inches.
Give it a shot and you'll see results.
I can understand how putting cardio into your regiment after you weight lift can increase your weight loss/loss of body fat. I've been throwing in 10 minute mile runs after my workouts for weeks now just for the hell of it.
I like the feeling and I work up quite a sweat. I haven't been fit in nearly 3 years and I can definitely see my body fat levels decrease.
My question is how does this affect your muscle gain? I don't know why (maybe I read it somewhere, some gym rat told me some day, etc. etc.) but I have the belief stuck in my head that cardio workout post-resistance training can be detrimental to muscle gains.. Any comments?
I've been tossing the idea around in my head for a few days now about ditching the cardio post weight lifting and dedicating 2-3 days a week for just cardio.
sunday - lift
monday - run
tuesday - lift
wednesday - rest
thursday - lift
friday - run
saturday - run
I used to run 12 miles daily in about 100+ heat index and weighed just 130lbs, but my fastest 2 mile was only 12:50ish. I could hold a 7:30 pace though the entire time. I was only curling 25lbs.
I cut my mileage to about 3-6 mi a day, albeit running with canteens (so +7-10lbs of water), then did weights AFTER I ran. Got my two mile sub 12, 1.5 mile to 8:11, and curls up to 45-50lbs.
I bulked up, but I was maybe more compact? My 1st sgt compared his arms to mine after he got back from OCS and though his arms were bigger, I could lift more and had higher muscle density. I gained all this in a summer, and I attribute a lot of it to just plain calisthetics. Your body weight is a horrible device.
what do you call this innovative style of high intensity interval training?
Depending on your level of cardio, you can do 400m, 800m repeats or more. Ladder: 400m, 800m, 1200m, 800m, 400m. (1-3min rests between). Don't crap yourself out. Just get a pace that is slightly faster and above your 'comfort zone' and try holding that for each set.
I do a ladder every now and then: 1mi race pace, rest 90seconds, .75 mi race pace, rest 90 seconds, .5 mi (race pace again..), rest 90 sec, .25 mi at race pace.
Interval training will get faster results, in my opinion, IF you really are pushing yourself. But that's why intervals SUCK. And on top of that, it's extremely stressful on the body and can lead to injuries quickly.