Car vs Bike (AGAIN) EVO magazine

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  1. ae86andkp61

    ae86andkp61 Guest

    Remember that thread a while back when someone posted a vid of some supposed car vs. bike test? All the sportsbike crew said it was plain that the rider didn't know what he was doing, and that bikes are waaaay faster than cars, even on road courses....this article doesn't settle the matter, but gives good evidence of the speed potential of four wheels.

    Anyone else read the December issue of EVO magazine? There is a big section on car versus bike. The staff of Superbike magazine invited the staff of EVO magazine to a two part challenge, straightline acceleration, and lap times around the motorcycle configuration of Silverstone. They brought a Suzuki GSX-R-1000 and another GSX-R1000 with about $27,000 worth of mods done by Crescent Suzuki. The modified bike put out 180hp at the rear wheel, feature Ohlins suspension, aftermarket brakes, and was ridden by Aaron Slight and Niall MacKenzie. The cars were a Lamborghini Murcielago, Porsche 911 GT3, BMW M3 CSL, and a Radical SR3, all bone-stock and driven by some dude named Phil Bennett.

    Acceleration tests were no contest...the modified bike won all by a long shot. The Radical could just about keep up with the standard GSX-R up to 70mph, at which point the bike slowly started to pull away. I can post figures if anyone is curious.

    At the road course, the story was quite different. Everyone there admitted that the course gave a bit of advantage to the bikes, favoring acceleration over cornering grip. Laptimes were as follows:

    Crescent Suzuki- 1:05.4
    Radical SR3- 1:05.6
    Suzuki GSX-R- 1:09.0
    Porsche GT3- 1:10.9
    Lamborghini- 1:11.5
    BMW M3- 1:12.0

    Notes: The standard bike, Porsche, and Lambo were on standard high-performance road tires. The BMW was on some special Michelin that is very close to a cut racing slick. The modified bike and the Radical were on road-legal trackday rubber, the bike used tire warmers, the car did not. Radical makes a turbo version of this car which is considerably faster, but the comparison test above used the N/A version.

    Cliff Notes Challenge issued by the bikers. Former GP and Superbike riders, so no claims that of an amateur rider. Heavily modded bike owned all in straightline acceleration. Heavily modded bike and fastest car very close on a motorcycle road racing course, with the bike just a tiny bit faster.
     
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  2. bioyuki

    bioyuki Ich habe Angst

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    Once again,

    English magazines > American magazines

    :hs:
     
  3. ae86andkp61

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    No bites from the sportsbike crew?
     
  4. uflathead

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    let's see them go up against a MotoGP bike;)
     
  5. ae86andkp61

    ae86andkp61 Guest

    Sure....I'd put a Formula One car up against a MotoGP bike any day of the week.
     
  6. Chimpa Codigo

    Chimpa Codigo Bаnned bу Ѕuреr Modulators

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    like all bike riders will say, still alot more fun
     
  7. dmora

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    I'll have to check that out. :cool:
     
  8. ae86andkp61

    ae86andkp61 Guest

    Well worth the purchase...plus it has articles on the Noble M12 GTO, the Bentley Le Mans racecar, and the new Caterham Seven.
     
  9. MWHC22

    MWHC22 Bier/Deutsch/Homebrew/ Packers/Blackhawks/Outdoor

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    MotoGp bikes are fast.....But F1 cars are prolly the fastest shit that turns corners on the planet.

    I wish they would use a 600 bike on these track tests. Unless the track is favored for the straight away acceleration the 600cc bikes are faster than the 1000's. They are smaller and can turn better thena 1000cc bike.

    I know my 03'R6 can out corner the R1 and Gixxer1000 :fawk: ther real race comes between the 750cc class though...small enought to handle like a 600...and with some extra horses and tourque like a 1000cc bike.
     
  10. Mikel

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    What's a Radical?
     
  11. why did the bikes get mods but not the cars
     
  12. erok81

    erok81 All your canyons are belong to me!!

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    03 R6 > *
     
  13. Mikel

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    Just found the Radical Motorsports page, pretty cool cars. I've actually been wanting to do that for a long time, put a 'Busa engine in a tiny little car :hs:
     
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    MWHC22 ~ Bullshit. Depends who you were racing in and out of corners. You have someOne with the same ability as you using a R1 it's going to beat your r6.




    ~03 black R1


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  17. Acesn8s

    Acesn8s The Deadman's Hand

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    Suzuki GSX-R- 1:09.0
    Porsche GT3- 1:10.9
    Lamborghini- 1:11.5
    BMW M3- 1:12.0

    So the stock Gixxer beat a GT3, Lambo, and M3.
     
  18. Evil_Jeanyus

    Evil_Jeanyus That's it Ellen, cup the balls.

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    anyone from the sportbike crew who thinks bikes are faster around corners, i have two words for you:

    contact patch
     
  19. Stylerod

    Stylerod 150mph in a swimsuit :eek3:

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    150MPH in a Swimsuit :eek3:!
    So even with the mods made to the bike. How much price difference is there between the bike and the Radical?
     
  20. Stylerod

    Stylerod 150mph in a swimsuit :eek3:

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    Just found this

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  21. Wolf

    Wolf No one plans to take the path that brings you lowe

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    Only 1 bike was modded.

    And why not? You're comparing $100k+ cars vs. $10k bikes.
     
  22. Evil_Jeanyus

    Evil_Jeanyus That's it Ellen, cup the balls.

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    these bikes are the best of the best, are they not?

    these cars are not the best of the best.
    apples ---> oranges
     
  23. Wolf

    Wolf No one plans to take the path that brings you lowe

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  24. TotalEclipse

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    How about a crash test? :o
     
  25. Wolf

    Wolf No one plans to take the path that brings you lowe

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    They're the one of the best stock streetbikes available to the public at a decent price. With a lot more money, you can buy a better bike than the gixxer.
     

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