Car system build *Suggestions*

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  1. zipp0

    zipp0 New Member

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    Installing a full system in my 2005 Honda Civic Sedan.
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    This is what I have decided on so far..

    Deck: Pioneer AVIC Z110bt
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    Pre-outs: 3 sets (4V)

    Sub: Fi Q 12'' Ported enclosure.
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    Amp: Sundown Audio - SAE-1200D v.2
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    1200 x 1 watts @ 1 ohm
    600 x 1 watts @ 2 ohms
    300 x 1 watts @ 4 ohms
    0.153v - 5.6v adjustable input sensitivity
    RCA Line-Out Jack
    15 Hz - 250 Hz Frequency Response
    > 90 dB S/N Ratio
    4-Way Protection Circuit (Thermal, Overload, Speaker Short, and Over Current)
    50 Hz - 250 Hz adjustable 12dB Low-Pass Crossover
    15 Hz - 50 Hz adjustable 12dB Subsonic Filter
    0 or 180 degree adjustable phase switch
    0 - 12 dB adjustable bass boost with 60 Hz center frequency
    Wired Remote Control unit included
    5x 30 Amp Internal Fuses
    17" L x 10.6" W x 2.2" H

    Component Speakers: ????
     
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    Now can you guys recommend me some component speakers?
    Also do I need a separate amp to power the components? :dunno:
     
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    Additional items to be installed:

    HD radio receiver: Pioneer GEX P20HD
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    Rear-view cam: ND-BC2
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    Kill-switch: Rocker switch for amps
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    Battery: Optima Yellowtop To replace stock.
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    Wiring: 30' 0 gauge Big 3 upgrade.
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    iPod Hookup: CD-IU230v
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    So what am I missing besides components and x-overs?
     
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  4. OniMinion

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    I got the Optima Blue (technically marine). Boat batteries have two extra terminals on them for electric trolling motors - these are GREAT for wiring.
    Enclosure for subs?
    Considering a capacitor?
    Mounting kit for deck (do you know someone that works in retail that can get you a deal on these overpriced things)?
    Better than a kill switch is an amp remote so you can adjust the subs on the fly (as songs vary greatly with bass)...
     
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    Kieffer87 Orly OT Supporter

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    -With a good battery and 0/1 gauge wire he shouldn't need a capacitor.
    -I agree on just using the decks remote turn on wire, no need to add a switch when your deck has a built in switch.
    -Curious why you are sticking all this money into your stereo and components then are going to settle just for an RCA connector for your ipod. That deck might come with a cable if not it should be capable of interfacing with your ipod with an additional cable/module. Displaying all the ipod info on the screen and charging it.
    -Why do you need a backup camera in a civic? Seems like a waste of money but to each their own.
    -Have you checked to make sure there is HD radio stations in your area? I know around here there is only 1, if you live in a bigger city you should be fine.
    -If you plan on doing component speakers not coaxles (sp?) you will want a separate 4 channel amp for them to reach their full potential. OR you could try and find a 5 channel amp but I think you are going to have a hard time finding and or spending a boat load on a 5 channel with the power that sub is going to need.

    Without really knowing what you are trying to accomplish here it's hard to say what speakers and if they need an amp. I would guess you are going all out and love bass. If this is true and you do like to hear vocals then you will want to get a good set of component speakers and power them with an amp. You might be able to get away with just geting some coaxel speakers and powering them off the deck but like i said depending on the volumes you like with the sub it might not be enough.

    EDIT: After looking closer that is the pioneer usb ipod interface :big grin:
     
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    sick sub, sick amp :bigthumb:

    i dont know anyone who has an hd radio kit, or people that even listen to the radio anymore.. ESPECIALLY since youre getting an ipod hookup

    i've always been a fan of a separate amp for the components.

    IMO i'd get a 2 channel amp for the fronts.. and leave the back speakers stock. you only need those for rear fill, and especially with a sub, your HU should bump the stock back speakers just fine

    as for component speakers.. it's damn hard to suggest speakers for you.

    i'd go listen to a bunch of sets and see which ones your ears like. i personally like PG RSD's since they have insane value.. and i'm biased.

    but Focals are great.. and people even end up liking Alpine type arggggs. you never know

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    to me the hd radio, the switch, and the backup camera are a waste... we only have one station close enough here, that broadcast in hd... the deck has a sub control, that can bascially kill the sub while in play... and a backup camera in a small car like that is a waste, unless you're not able to move your neck.
     
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    I agree on the sub I have never heard of that amp company though. However they look identical to Crunch amps which are an amazing bang for your buck.

    Check out the alpine type S speakers too some people end up liking the sound of them over the R.
     
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    i love the sound of the type-s over the type-arrrrrrrrg
     
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    I knew there was someone on here that did! I do too the arrs just sound tooo flat to me.
     
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    Alright I'm gonna scrap the cam and get some good components.
     
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    I got HD radio in my last build (we have tons of those stations). The neatest addition was when listening to sports the display changes between score, time left, yard line etc etc. It's also nice to hears the highs and lows that FM cuts off. It really is CD quality. If you have enough stations (or radio stations you care about) in your area in HD, it's totally worth it!
     
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    HD Radio stations available in my listening area:

    WXPN-HD
    88.5 FM Album Adult Alternative, University of Pennsylvania
    WXPN-HD2
    88.5-2 FM Y-Rock, University of Pennsylvania
    WRTI-HD
    90.1 FM Clscl/Jazz, Temple University
    WRTI-HD2
    90.1-2 FM Classical / Jazz, Temple University
    WHYY-HD
    90.9 FM Nws/Tlk/Inf, WHYY, Inc.
    WHYY-HD2
    90.9-2 FM WHYY Arts & Info Service, WHYY, Inc.
    WXTU-HD
    92.5 FM Country, Beasley Broadcast Group
    WXTU-HD2
    92.5-2 FM Country Next Generation, Beasley Broadcast Group
    WMMR-HD
    93.3 FM Rock, Greater Media
    WMMR-HD2
    93.3-2 FM Live Rock - WMMR Archives, Greater Media
    WYSP-HD
    94.1 FM Rock, CBS Radio
    WYSP-HD2
    94.1-2 FM News/KYW, CBS Radio
    WYSP-HD3
    94.1-3 FM WIP-AM Sports, CBS Radio
    WBEN-HD
    95.7 FM Adult Hits, Greater Media
    WBEN-HD2
    95.7-2 FM Club Ben - Rythmic AC /Dance, Greater Media
    WRDW-HD
    96.5 FM CHR/Rhymc, Beasley Broadcast Group
    WRDW-HD2
    96.5-2 FM Dance Club Music, Beasley Broadcast Group
    WPEN-HD
    97.5 FM Sprts/Talk, Greater Media
    WPEN-HD2
    97.5-2 FM Classical, Greater Media
    WOGL-HD
    98.1 FM Classic Hits, CBS Radio
    WOGL-HD2
    98.1-2 FM All 70's, CBS Radio
    WUSL-HD
    98.9 FM Urban, Clear Channel
    WUSL-HD2
    98.9-2 FM Classic Hip Hop, Clear Channel
    WBEB-HD
    101.1 FM AC, WEAZ-FM, Inc.
    WIOQ-HD
    102.1 FM CHR/Top40, Clear Channel
    WIOQ-HD2
    102.1-2 FM Hot Spot, Clear Channel
    WMGK-HD
    102.9 FM Clsc Rock, Greater Media
    WMGK-HD2
    102.9-2 FM WMGK Deep Trax, Greater Media
    WMGK-HD3
    102.9-3 FM ESPN 950-AM, Greater Media
    WPPZ-HD
    103.9 FM Gospel, Radio One Inc.
    WRFF-HD
    104.5 FM Rock, Clear Channel
    WRFF-HD2
    104.5-2 FM eRockster, Clear Channel
    WDAS-HD
    105.3 FM Urban AC, Clear Channel
    WDAS-HD2
    105.3-2 FM Slow Jamz, Clear Channel
    WISX-HD
    106.1 FM Rhymc/AC, Clear Channel
    WISX-HD2
    106.1-2 FM Smooth Jazz, Clear Channel
    WRNB-HD
    107.9 FM Adult CHR, Radio One Inc.
    WIP-HD
    610 AM Sprts/Talk, CBS Radio
    WWJZ-HD
    640 AM Family Hits, Radio Disney
    WWDB-HD
    860 AM BusNw/Talk, Beasley Broadcast Group
    WPEN-HD
    950 AM Sprts/Talk, Greater Media
    KYW-HD
    1060 AM News, CBS Radio
    WPHT-HD
    1210 AM Talk, CBS Radio
    WUBA-HD
    1480 AM Tropical, Clear Channel

    All my favorite stations have HD.
     
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    Whats the difference between DUAL 1 and DUAL 2 subwoofer??
     
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    you're gonna want the Dual 2 so you can wire it in parallel down to 1 ohm so you can get the most out of your amp

    the dual 1 sub can only be wired to 0.5ohms or 2ohms IIRC.. and your amp isn't stable at 0.5ohms so you'd have to wire it at 2, wasting available power
     
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    Right a Dual 4 ohm sub can be wired either 2 ohm or 8 ohm, Dual 2 ohm can be 1 or 4, and dual 1 can be .5 or 2. Basically you are wiring the sub either in parallel or series with it self if that makes sense. Same applies if you had 2 single voice coil subwoofers wired together. You can always run a higher ohm load from the subs than the amp is rated at but never lower. So if you have a 1ohm stable amp, you can't/shouldn't run it at .5 ohm or less but could run it at anything higher than 1.

    Since you have the wire and are getting a good battery I would definitely plan on running at 1 ohm.
     

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