Car Sub/Amp suggestions?

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  1. Fusion

    Fusion OTSS FTW OT Supporter

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    Use to be big into this shit in highschool (IDMAX, DD, XXX) now I have been out of the car audio scene for 4 years and I need some help

    13w7 still a good main-stream sub?
    And what amp to push something like this now? I remember JBL and Hifonics D series use to be popular but how about now?


    BTW, I have pretty much unlimited space for goodies. Will be going in a Mazdaspeed6 with a bose system
     
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    Whats your budget?
     
  3. Fusion

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    1500 or so

    All I need is Sub/Amp/Box I have everything else. I always wanted a w7 in highschool just never got around to it
     
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    Well with that much you will be spending most of it on the w7 if you buy it at a shop.
     
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    Look at the elemental designs 13av2. For a hell of a lot cheaper you get a very comparable sub. Add a nine.1 and some some sound deadening under the package builder (15% off) and you've got all that for the price of a w7. Plus if you don't feel like building your own box they make good ones.
     
  6. danz24

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    XXX is still around, but its much more expensive now, and JL still has the reputation for being overpriced. As for the amp Sundown is popular.
     
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    Hmmm...for $1500, I'd run an RE Audio SX sub (or 2) and an MD1D or MD2D (depending what you can find for a deal at a local dealer).
     
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    and he would still have $ left over :)

    1500 for bass is a large budget IMHO
     
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    sundown?? link? specs?


    YEa the XXX was huge years ago and im sure the price has went way up
     
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    link? Thanks
     
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    Yeah, Merlin amps were junk there for a while. I would step very carefully.
     
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    Sundown is a great company but the price is on the steep side.

    www.sundownaudio.com

    Sundown sort-of got it's feet on the ground through Stereo Integrity. I run both companies in my truck currently and I am finally satisfied with my bass. This after running through everything from Adire Audio to RE to Ascendant.

    However, there are a lot of other small-name companies with great products as well so dont limit yourself to just what gets suggested here.

    RE audio was sold to the same company that bought (and ruined) USamps a while ago. The product is still very similar but the prices are way different.
     
  14. danz24

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    really?? I thought US amps was the larger company that bought RE. I never knew there was an even larger company that owns US amps.


    And for the OP, I would suggest a stereo integrity mag(Stereointegrity.com), fi Q(ficaraudio.com), or a used 05 XXX (yup theres still mean subs even compared to todays woofers),

    And a us amp md2d or sundown amp, both push 1500w+ and are in the same price range and quality.
     
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    USamps used to be hand built right down in gainesville, FL.

    New management and a few years under the radar...Now they come in from Korea (half of them) and are mass shipped out of california to a dealer network.
     
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    o ya.. dunno if I got this right. But from what I understand before they get parts overseas but they are built in the u.s.
    which is a normal business model if you ask me. anyway i still love my amp, and those koreans who made them.
     
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    No and only the Xterminator amps are made in the US if I recall correctly. The old MD amp boards were most deffanitely korean bassed and built.

    However, I have nothing agianst over seas boards. I love hifonics amps, they are made in Korea. I love my Sundown SAZ-1500D...they are also a korean board.

    I do have something agianst korean amps that I have nothing but bad experiences with and when an amp line develops a known ground looping problem and after two tries (read: $40 to ship it to cali twice) I get left sitting dead in the water with a broken amp.

    My Hifonics amps have been through hell, my sundowns have been through hell...I never had a chance to put any of my new USamps amps through hell because they all broke before hand. They also support an online dealer who is known for poor customer service and knowingly ripped me off and ripped others off. Besides that point, they charge a hefty price for a korean amp bearing the name USamps. The quality is really no better than your mainstream middle of the run amps unless you pay for their top end stuff.

    I still have an old USA-100 that I love dearly...new USamps on the other hand, I will never run that junk agian. That is one opinion...others see it differently but you dont see USamps winning in the big boy lanes much anymore.
     
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    Only the XT line is built overseas, it was a needed change to compete with the ever changing global economy...and even then, they are only built partially overseas, they are assembled and the power supplies added in CA. The AX & MD lines are built in the US
     
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    2007 Deathmatch world champions....unless the T-shirts they sent me (and were wearing at CES) were blatant lies, I think they have done quite well w/ the "big boys" as of late.
     
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    I know for a fact Merlin amps have korean boards at least, if not assembled in korea.
     
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    :hsugh:

    Go toa 2x or 3x dB Drag competition. USamps is not first choice. What goes on in world finals competition is a joke. The whole stereo competition scene is a joke once it gets to that level. It comes down to money at that point, both money being spent by the competitor and ammount of money gained by the competition agency.
     
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    Of course it comes down to money at that point. Everything comes down to money when the "big boys" as you call them come to play. But then, why didn't Kicker, MTX or someone like them come in and walk away with the competition? They have VASTLY more $$$$$ than USAmps/RE Audio. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they are the be-all-end-all amplifier or sub (If they were I wouldn't sell any other lines...and all the other lines would go out of business), I'm just saying of all the mainstream amps/subs that we have sold over the past 15 years, they are the best bang for the buck. Most people who buy systems don't compete...at least officially. Most people are plenty happy getting into the 130's or 140's.

    I just saw that you say they support an online dealer who has ripped you and others off...may I ask which dealer? Ikesound is authorized for B-Stock only. No new product can be sold online. If you see Ikesound selling new product, let me know and I will do what I can to get them shut down
     
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    Its not profitable for them :hsd:
     
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    And Kicker paying huge dollars to rent an event room at Hard Rock Casino and feed me (a non-Kicker dealer) booze all night long while listening to Kenny Wayne Shepherd play a live show this past January during CES was profitable for them?
     
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    So instead of losing in the lanes they would rather have an amp die on start up after 2 months...this after two of the four set screws on the signal output were cross threaded? Or maybe they would prefer severe ground loop problems and an amp that randomly sends DC voltage to the sub? Of course you can ship your amp to them TWICE for a known problem and it never gets fixed or call them on the phone being a little pissed off and when they dont feel like dealing with it because they dont recognise the dealer's name they tell you goodbye then lie to the higher ups when you contact them.

    Greg seemed like a cool guy...untill he left me sitting dead in the water with a broken $600 amp after he tried to fix it twice.

    Ikesound is AUTHORIZED for B-Stock. Meaning everything that isnt in dealer condition can be sold there while retaining warranty. That is support from USamps. Ikesound doesnt deserve to be in business but the BBB doesnt have any real power...more of a buyer beware sort of idealism. However, you would think USamps wouldnt put their name anywhere near such a business. Apparently they didnt check or dont care.

    And Kicker does win in the lanes and they really arent any more expensive than USamps. However, they dont make 10kw amps...Kicker kicks ass and takes names in the street and super street classes. They put a lot more R&D into their product and have much higher profit margins which is how they can afford to get potential dealers drunk and send current dealers and team builders on cruises. I am not even a big kicker fan. The prices are too steap and the amp's protections too pissy when you try to push them. I will still give them credit where credit is deserved.

    USamps used to be "You get what you payfor." IE, you payed more dollar per watt than the mainstream but you got an amp with top notch signal quality, high efficency (relative to the amp design), and the ability to run insanely low loads without the amp sweating it. That is what the USamps enthusiasts grew to love.

    This new USamps? An overpriced hifonics in a big classier case.
     
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