GUN Cap and ball kits.

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  1. springy101

    springy101 When god comes and calls me to his kingdom, I'll t

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    I've been looking to get a revolver, not spend a ton of money, and I'm not yet 21. So from what I have been reading these black powder revolvers should be good for my situation. I've been searching around here and from what I've gathered they can be: shipped directly to your house, be bought by people younger than 21, and don't need to be DROS'd or anything. I've also been reading on how to load them, and read some stuff about not using wax or grease and setting off the other bullets. Does that happen often at all, and wouldn't that pretty much blow the gun up in your hand having a .44 bullet hit the revolver frame from about a 1/2 inch away? As far as bullets, powder, and all that stuff goes, are these guns cheap to shoot? I live in CA by the way :sadwavey:

    Oh, and the kit I was looking at getting is the Remington steel kit in .44 about halfway down the page.

    http://possibleshop.com/kit-cap-ball.htm

    Or this one from Cabelas

    http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...&parentType=index&indexId=cat20817&hasJS=true
     
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  2. Paul Revere

    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    how old are you?
     
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    a chain fire is pretty unusual, all you have to do is put some crisco on top of the ball after it is seated to prevent it. I would always use bore butter on my patch and not worry about anything over the round.

    as far a costs
    powder is going to be 25 bucks a pound avg load is 30 grains of powder 7000 grains to a pound
    bullets are going to run you 8-12 dollars per 100 Learn to cast your own much cheaper
    caps are maybe 5 bucks per 100

    you could set up a way to cast your own balls for less than 75 dollars so if you plan on shooting much thats the way to go
     
  4. springy101

    springy101 When god comes and calls me to his kingdom, I'll t

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    18, almost 19.
     
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    I have a ton of black power pistols.

    They're fun to shoot. Only times Ive experienced a chain fire is when shooting blanks, and that's a rarity. Lead balls usually set tightly enough in the cylinders no spark or ignitor should get to the powder.
     
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    Its also worth noting that you won't be able to shoot these at indoor ranges.
     
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    Because of the smoke?
     
  8. Paul Revere

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    look into the DOJ Intrafamilial Handgun Transfer. skip the black powder and get what you want.
     
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    Indoor ranges suck anyways.
     
  10. springy101

    springy101 When god comes and calls me to his kingdom, I'll t

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    I don't go shooting at public ranges, I always go to BLM land or national forests.
     
  11. Sardaukar

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    The indoor ranges near me allow BP.

    I haven't bought any supplies for my BP revolver lately. So, I really can't help with the pricing of everything.


    Here are some things you will need though:
    1. The pistol :mamoru:
    2. Black powder or substitute
    3. Percussion caps
    4. Lead balls or conical bullets (I've never tried conical before)
    5. Powder flask
    6. Powder measure (As a precaution, don't charge your chamber directly from the flask. Black powder will explode when under compression. If there happens to be some burning embers in your chamber and it catches the powder on fire, the flask will become a hand grenade.
    7. Some type of lubricant. I use Bore Butter. It makes clean up much easier.

    Optional Equipment:
    1. Lube coated wads (These are placed on top of the powder and below the ball.) It helps to clean out the barrel while firing a round, helps prevent chainfires. I also heard it helps with accuracy, because it places the ball closer to the barrel, and this doesn't need to travel as far before it contacts the rifling.
    2. Rolling paper (Used to make paper cartidges. I tried it once and gave up. The paper I bought was too small. I might make another attempt with the correct sized paper.

    There's more I could tell. I just can't remember everything right now.

    You'll find though that after you buy everything, it'll cost about the same as a surplus centerfire pistol. I have one, because I am fascinated with the Civil War and the weapons and tactics they used back then. :bigthumb:
     
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    I want a BP revolver. But first a -74 kit :o
     
  13. Sardaukar

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    I would recommend against kit and brass frame revolvers. Buy an Uberti and be done. Excluding Colt, Uberti is probably the best quality cap and ball manufacturer. Pietta would be right behind them.

    Edit: I didn't elaborate on why not to buy a brass frame revolver. A brass frame will not withstand the pressures exerted on it as well as a steel (color case hardened) frame.
     
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    Yes. Some people don't like to inhale black powder smoke. Pussies. :mamoru:

    Shooting outdoors is much more fun, especially when the wind is blowing towards you. :bowdown:
     
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    :rofl:

    Is it super bad for you or something?
     
  17. Willie J

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    isn't that just a fancy phrase for straw purchase
     
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    straw purchase = illegal
    transfer = legal
     
  19. Sardaukar

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    Science has determined that anything you ingest/inhale may cause cancer.
     
  20. Sardaukar

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    Is that like the gun show loophole?
     
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    No, since the person receiving it gets the standard background check done on them before it is approved :dunno:
     
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    Black powder smoke has some sulfur in it, so it has a hint of rotten egg smell to it.
     
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    Do any Uberti models have some kind of dumbass "safety" in them, or are they basically straight-up copies from the original designs?
     
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    any special reason not to do kits?
     

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