Can't get rid of this virus

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  1. CT Cubs Fan

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    I got some aim virus and everytime I delete what I think is all of it using symantec or hijack this it keeps coming back. It keeps trying to send spam emails or something because my symantec email scanner is going nuts giving me like 500000 notification windows. Its labeled as W32.Allim and the file is aolupd.exe.
     
  2. Darketernal

    Darketernal Watch: Aria The Origination =)

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    i despise norton, get avast or AVG instead.
     
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    Avast didn't even find it, I'm running AVG now.

    I had to ditch symantec.
     
  4. deusexaethera

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    Try Stinger from http://vil.nai.com. Turn off System Restore (so the virus can't hide there and then reinstall itself) and run the scanner in safe mode, preferably downloaded on another computer and copied to a floppy disk or USB memory stick.
     
  5. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I'd like for one person who hates Norton to explain what it is that they hate about it that their favorite app doesn't suffer from...
     
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    Taking up a huge amount of resources compared to alternative programs.
    The scans take awhile.
    It doesn't find everything.
    ...
     
  7. deusexaethera

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    I believe the key phrase in Doc's question was "WHAT THEIR FAVORITE APP DOESN'T SUFFER FROM". Maybe Norton uses more memory than other scanners, so that could be a valid point. (On the other hand, if you're talking about Scan-On-Access as opposed to Scan-On-Modify settings, if you don't customize the settings in any program to suit your needs then you're a fool and I have no sympathy for you.) But any thorough virus scan takes time to process hundreds of thousands of files, and no virus scanner finds everything.
     
  8. Darketernal

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    Norton is a virus in itself, if you try to remove symantec from your computer, it always stays in your registry and it messes up your computer if you try to remove it. On top of that it doesn't find all the virusses, i had a horrible time with the about blank virus, norton is an anti-virus that you pay for that doesn't do the job, and avast is an anti-virus that's for free and does do the job. So if the virus isn't removed then your entire computer suffers, not just applications.
     
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    I'm running a corporate network with about 60 desktops and 15 laptops. When I removed the Symantec corporate stuff and installed the avg corporate version, I had all sorts of warning notices saying there were viruses on this computer and that computer. Symantec had been installed for about 2 years and was getting it's virus def's pushed by the server, so it's not like they were out of date. There were around 15 computers that were infected with various viruses, nothing major, but after reviewing the logs from the server side, there were 0 warnings from symantec of any threats. AGV was able to remove them first try.
     
  10. deusexaethera

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    Can we consider for a moment that Norton Internet Security is not the only product Symantec Inc. publishes?
     
  11. deusexaethera

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    1. How do you know they were actually viruses, and not just temp files (or whatnot) that had similar hash codes as known viruses?

    2. Did you delete Symantec's quarantine folder before you uninstalled it? If you didn't, you might very well have seen the new virus scanner detecting the old virus scanner's quarantine.

    I don't trust the "Virus Alert!" messages that free virus scanners pop up. Consider for a moment that the free virus scanners are made by companies that also offer pay-to-use products, and it becomes clear (instantly clear, I would hope) that the free products are going to make as much noise as possible about what a good job they're doing at protecting the user from the nasty evil world outside, so the user will upgrade to a pay-to-use product ASAP so spyware won't kill them in their sleep.

    You may think free products are a good way for the antivirus companies to reduce the threat to their paid customers, and you'd be right -- but far more importantly, the antivirus companies think that free products make fantastic (pardon the expression) viral advertisements.
     
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    when uninstalling the symantec corporate software, it alerts you that there are still objects in the quarantine folder and asks if you want to remove them, to which I said yes each time.

    The AVG I use at work is not the free one, it' the corporate version. It's cheaper than the symantec stuff was, but still far from free.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Nothing to fear, good buddy. :naughty:
     
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    I'm fearing the Norton haters. See, you've thrown stats in their faces, and now it's on.
     
  17. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Yes, the hate is indeed strong with some people.

    My theory on the whole thing is that back in the day of 200mhz machines, if you ran
    Norton it probably made your machine crawl. So certain individuals that I won't mention by name, started telling people what a resource hog Norton is.
    And never stopped telling people that. So as the years go by, you get a lot of people that become convinced that it must be so, nevermind the fact that today's version is probably light years away from the early days.
     
  18. deusexaethera

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    Heh. I still have a copy of Norton Antivirus and Norton Utilities that ran in DOS. I used to use it on my first computer, a 16MHz 286 made the year I was born. Never could bring myself to part with it -- I'd never find it again, if I ever needed to.

    That damned computer took FIVE MINUTES to load Netscape. And it had a 16-color video card, so even once I got to browsing for porn, it looked like shit anyway.
     
  19. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Where I work, they recently cleaned out their stock of old computer stuff.
    I had forgotten what it was like when software came with 5 pounds of books and documentation.
    They tossed a pallet of old stuff like that that ran on mostly 286/386 machines.
    It was a real blast through the past.
     

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