Can OT Recommend a new thermogenic stack.

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  1. MexicanTaco

    MexicanTaco New Member

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    Been researching awhile now seeing how the e/c stack was substituted by the yohimbine stack but that led to loss of libido and going soft during sex so I quit that all together...its been a year since I've taken a stack and i've been sluggish on my cardio and workout so I want to get back on one.

    I've read up on AMP and Venom and it looks like AMP is the better of the two since Venom has the limp dick side effect.

    Should I go back on the E/C stack or try AMP?

    Recommend me something thermogenic if you would. Thanks OT.
     
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    AMP also causes "performance issues".

    reccomend Thermorexin (but a bit biased as the formulator). It does not have "limp dick" causing factors, if anything it increases erectile response (the methylxanthines are PDE inhibitors and it contains yohimbine)
     
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    So I'm the only one who noticed the loss of performance. :bowdown:

    I'm gonna read up on that right now macro. Thanks.

    Anyone else. Feel free to share.
     
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    AMP and stim-x both cause this issue, they very likely contain the same compound (in different doses). Have used them both. Though will say the effect is less with amp than stim-x.
     
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    GuOD mcflurry diet

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    I've used amp for like 2 years now on and off and i'm still amazing all the time
     
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    not at all. but the compound that is in amp, and appears to be in stim-x.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/07/AR2006050700913_pf.html

    can cause erectile issues. But that does not mean it will for everyone. its a long acting stimulant and has good appetite suppression. It also tends to cause sleeplessness and many users note rapid attenuation if used too frequently.
     
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    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Are you seriously citing an Amy Shipley article as a legitimate source on a supplement? I think PA said that article was BS as well.

    I've never heard of any erectile issues or had any problems while using AMP. And doesn't yohimbine HELP with that?
     
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    I've yet to see AMP cause any of these issues
     
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    PA has admitted that it contains methylhexaneamine, he has claimed that geranium oil contains it though that cannot be verified.

    and regardless of amy's history, the article is accurate about the fact that he put methylhexaneamine in it and tried to hide it by calling it geranamine.

    amp does not contain yohimbine, though yohimbine is the first and only ED drug approved in the US prior to viagra.
     
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    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Oh I know AMP doesn't contain yohimbine, but the threadstarter said yohimbine caused a loss of libido which I thought was strange.
     
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    agree. very strange. usually when one switches from ephedrine to yohimbine the effect is the opposite.

    note- only on bb.com forums has YC replaced EC. SYC and EC + topical Y are much more common presentations.
     
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    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Synephrine?
     
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    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    ANYTHING that causes boner problems I refuse to take. Original poster, how long did it take the boner problems to go away?
     
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    Use T-Rex or Cardio Breeze.
     
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    about a good 2 weeks. I guess my body didnt take well to the yohimbine or could it have been the caffeine? When I was on E/C i was good for 3 nuts but then on the yohimbine i kept going soft after 20-30 minutes. I got of it and then I was normal.

    Cavefish...or you other knowledgeable OTers...should I take AMP? From what I've read...only venom causes the erectile side effect.

    Actually...my question now is... what should I stack AMP with?
     
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    Uglybob69 I miss beer.

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    Fuck, I was going to take Venom to cut :wtc:
     
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    I took an E/C stack and it worked very well, but I didn't like the side effects. Some of the best results I got was simply with a good diet + cardio + sesamin + coffee/green tea throughout the day.
     
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    Sesamin...i keep hearing about that. Anyone else have info?

    Ugly...I got that limp dick info from bulknutrition reviews and forums. Many people stated that Venom led to limp dick and depression.
     
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    cavefish You ain't a crook son, you just a shook one

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    Although its a Biotest product, Hot-Rox is pretty good stuff and puts me in a good mood as well.
     
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