GUN Ca. million round ammo guy released from jail - a felon

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_ammo25.3bafec3.html


    Norco man with cache of guns, ammo in house freed from jail

    By PAIGE AUSTIN
    The Press-Enterprise

    Norco resident Thomas Lee McKiernan regained his freedom Tuesday, but he's lost a lot in the last two months.

    McKiernan, a retired machinist, Vietnam veteran and former Army captain, made national headlines in March when his home caught fire, exposing a cache of more than a hundred guns, a million rounds of ammunition and more than 185 pounds of gun powder.

    When firefighters arrived at the scene, he tussled with them in an effort to get back into his burning home even as live rounds exploded in the blaze. When the flames were doused, Riverside County sheriff's officials discovered a 70-foot long tunnel beneath his house filled with food and water for long-term survival.

    he fire, the water damage and the tunnel made his house uninhabitable.

    McKiernan moved into the Robert Presley Detention Center, an unwitting emblem of embattled gun rights for some and a symbol of survivalist extremism for others.

    But in the end, McKiernan was just a local man who accidentally ran afoul of the law, said Deputy District Attorney Michael Mayman.

    On Tuesday, Riverside Superior Court Judge Janice M. McIntyre sentenced him to 80 days of time already served. He will also have to serve three years probation, undergo psychiatric evaluation and forever give up his gun collection.

    McKiernan faced as much as five years in prison, but the more lenient sentence was part of a plea arrangement that reflects his efforts to comply with the law and his lack of criminal history, said Mayman.

    Most of McKiernan 's guns were collected over decades, and they include collector's pieces such as pre-World War II guns. His illegal assault rifles were bought before they were outlawed in 2000, indicating that McKiernan was at least trying to be a law-abiding collector, Mayman said.

    "People are particularly sensitive about this issue," said Mayman, who received dozens of calls from gun enthusiasts. "This was really more of an explosives case than a gun-rights issue."

    The problem, said Mayman, is that McKiernan 's stockpile of gunpowder was a threat to the community. He had more than 185 pounds of gunpowder -- dozens of times the legal limit.

    One positive outcome of the case is that many people are trying to learn from McKiernan's mistakes by making sure their gun collections are legal and that they have the proper permits if they store large quantities of gunpowder, Mayman said. "It's important for us to enforce our gun laws," Mayman said, adding that is particularly true in light of the Virginia Tech massacre.

    On Tuesday morning, McKiernan waited for hours with dozens of other shackled inmates in the Riverside courthouse. Gray-haired and wearing an orange jumpsuit, the 62-year-old kept to himself and declined to make a statement to the court before his sentencing.

    He's a quiet but pleasant man, explained his attorney, Michael K. Cernyar. Despite his jail time, he has faired well with support from family and neighbors in the community, Cernyar said.

    Even though his neighbors had to be evacuated due to the explosives, many in the community came out in support of McKiernan, who lived in the now-condemned home for 32 years.

    In the end, McKiernan got a fair deal, Cernyar concluded.

    "I think it was fair, and I think gun lovers would think it was fair," he said. "People still have the right to bear arms."


    Reach Paige Austin at 951-893-2106 or [email protected]


    "I think it was fair, and I think gun lovers would think it was fair," :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:
    No he got fucking shafted you fucking idiot.
     
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    So, if all the guns were legal then why did they take away his collection? They said it was only a matter of "explosives" and not firearms. The only thing he should have been in trouble for was packing that much black powder as that is a risk to his neighbors.

    He is in enough shit that he is going to lose his house as he didn't have home owners insurance.
     
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    storing all that powder was illegal, so bye bye guns.
     
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    also, he probably was brought up on AW charges :dunno:
     
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    :ugh: how the FUCK is that fair?
     
  6. Werm

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    That's crazy... they stold his guns because he had to much gunpowder?
     
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    ugh, I don't even know what to say. Yeah it was his bad for having too much powder, but they sure raped for everything.
     
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    Seems to be quite contradictory not to mention insulting to compare him to a mass killer.
     
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    No the wife gets to sell them to pay for damages to their house.

    He had several unregistered AWs.
     
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    So, how do they correlate the black powder to guns specifically? Why not just ban him from storing black powder and self loading?

    I love how that characterized him as a Survival Extremist. :rofl: He was prepared for a major zombie invasion.
     
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    It doesnt really spell it out in the article, but I'm guessing that storing that much black powder = a felony, and convicted Felon = no guns.
     
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    He plead to one count of possessing an unregistered AW. He had something like 5 of them in the house.
     
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    Oh yeah, that is true. I stand corrected.

    It's just lame that something so "small" can lead him to losing his gats.
     
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    I would REALLY like to know exactly what states that is illegal in. If I got convicted of some dumb shit that was perfectly legal in 49 other states, I'd be livid.
     
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    I'm not positive, but I think it might be a federally regulated thing. +50 lbs of gunpowder or whatever could be considered a bomb or something. Not sure about that though.
     
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    Having illegal AWs is a felony. The explosives may be too, but the illegal AW is for sure.
     
  17. Werm

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    Cali has retarded unconstitutional laws...
     

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