GUN C&R Enfield Crew, Help!

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  1. GarandBobcat

    GarandBobcat New Member

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    I recently acquired a No.4 Mk.1* rifle, Long Branch, 1950 dated, serial 93L23XX, and I have a problem with the dissasembly. I've already managed to get it apart for de-cosmolening and back together, but now it won't come apart again.
    Specifically, the bolt head seems to be hanging up inside the receiver, just about under the front of the rear sight base. The bolt body will wiggle still, so I'm pretty sure it's not stuck, just the bolt head.
    I don't want to resort to sheer blunt force on the rifle to get it apart, since it hasn't had a problem up til now, but I don't know what to do. I've basically stripped the rifle apart around the receiver, hoping something will reveal itself as the cause, but no luck, as far as I can tell.

    Anyone have any idea what can be done? I'll include some (crappy, cell phone taken) pictures of it, in case that'll help.

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    My apologies about the pictures, I thought they'd be a little better focused than that...
     
  2. Thunderbear

    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

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    Looking at my Ishapore, the trigger has to be depressed and the safety off to remove the bolt.

    There's some design differences though, my rear sight is way forward of the receiver. I'd need a clearer look at the extractor assembly.
     
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    sp00n155 You underestimate the insignificance of my penis OT Supporter

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    make sure the saftey is off?
     
  4. thegooch

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    Both of my Enfields you pull the bolt all the way back on my No.4 Mk1. there is a tab you have to press down while rotating the bolt face downard, while pulling the bolt out.

    On my No1 MkIII there is no tab, you just pull the bolt all the way back and then rotate/press the boltface downward
     
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    No bolt tab, as you can't quite see because my phone pics are crap, the bolt head is already rotated for removal. I wonder if something got jammed in there next to the bolt head.

    Safety is not only off, it's been removed from the rifle, after the bolt stuck. Like I said, after it stuck and I couldn't free it, I basically took the rifle apart trying to find out...

    Keep 'em coming, please. Every idea is a chance to fix it, and I need all the chances I can get.
     
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    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

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    Can the bolt head on Mk3's and -4's unscrew like Ishys? If they can and the bolt will rotate, unscrew the bolt head. :o
     
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    yeah, it can. Unfortunately, it's in just far enough that the bolt body is prevented from rotating. I tried. A lot.

    @Gooch: Thanks for the link. Already tried at surplusrifles, always good to have another source :bigthumb:
     
  10. Thunderbear

    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

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    Is the bolt head rotated a hair out of alignment with the locking lug? I had that problem when putting in my bolt last night.
     
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    I'll answer since he's at work :o

    The only part that is stuck is the bolt head, the bolt body can rotate (slightly) free of the head.
     
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    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

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    Will the bolt travel back forward to full lock?
     
  13. TwoGuns

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    So you can't get it in or out? Totally stuck?

    I have a No.4 Mk1 sitting in my lap but mine is a 1944 and it has a bolt release button.
     
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    Look the same?
     
  15. GarandBobcat

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    Neg. Mine doesn't have that catch, and my bolt head is already rotated to the vertical for removal.

    Thanks for the suggestions guys, I've had no luck with anything, I'm just going to find a local 'smith and ask for professional help.
    Wish me luck.
     

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