Building my own PC

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  1. Claydus

    Claydus Active Member

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    Ok i'm looking at some motherboards with processors on tigerdirect.com. Here are some that interest me. Please tell me what you think. Please comment on your setup you are running.

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    $214.99
    Package Content
    Shuttle AK32A
    AMD Athlon XP 2200+

    Processor
    - AMD Duron CPU with 200 / 266MHz FSB (Upto 2600+)

    Chipset
    - (North bridge) VIA VT8366
    - High Performance Athlon CPU Interface
    - Integrated full featured Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) controller
    - Integrated high bandwidth 266MB/S 8-bit Vlink Host controller
    - Integrated advanced high performance DDR DRAM controller

    Memory
    - 2 x 184-pin DIMM DDR
    - 2 x 168-pin DIMM SDRAM
    - Supports 4 banks up to 2 GB DRAMs (512Mb x8/x16 DRAM technology) for register DDR SDRAM module
    - Supports 4 banks up to 1 GB DRAMs (512Mb x8/x16 DRAM technology) for unbuffered SDR SDRAM module

    Expansion Slots
    - 1 AGP slot
    - Support AGP 2.0 compliant, 1X, 2X, 4X AGP device
    - Supports SideBand Addressing (SBA) mode (non-multiplexed address / data)
    - PCI: 6 PCI slots, PCI 2.2 compliant
    - Support 32 bit PCI master mode device
    - 133 Mbyte/sec Maximum ThroughputCNR:
    - 1 CNR slots
    - Support CNR riser card for Modem function
    - I/O: Winboad 83697HF

    IDE
    - 2 Dual channel master mode PCI supporting four Enhanced IDE devices
    - Transfer rate up to 33MB/sec to cover PIO mode 4, multi-word DMA mode 2 drives, and UltraDMA-33 interface and increased reliability using - - UltraDMA-66/100 transfer protocols

    Audio: VIA audio with AC 97 compliant CODEC

    I/O
    - 1 x PS/2 Keyboard
    - 1 x PS/2 Mouse
    - 2 x USB
    - 2 x COM
    - 1 x Parallel

    Accessories
    - CD-ROM Disk:
    - VIA 4-1 driver
    - VIA audio driver
    - VIA Ethernet driver
    - User manual in PDF file
    - 1 x UDMA 66/100 cable
    - 1 x Floppy Cable
    - 1 x print user manual

    Other one
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    $294.99
    Package content
    - Soyo P4VDA
    - Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz

    Processor
    - Supports Intel ® Socket-478 P4 Processor (1.4G - 2G+)

    Chipset
    - P4X266A/8233A
    - Supports 400 MHz FSB

    Form Factor
    - ATX

    Memory
    - DDR266 SDRAM
    - Three DDR 2.5V DIMM sockets support up to 3 GB
    - 184-pin PC2100/PC1600 non-ECC, unbuffered DDR SDRAM memory

    Expansion Slots
    - Five 32-bit Bus Mastering PCI slots (V2.2 compliant)
    - One Universal AGP slot (support 2x/4x mode)
    - Expansion Slot Types
    - Five 32-bit Bus Mastering PCI

    IDE Type
    - UDMA 66/100/133
    - Two independent channels for four IDE devices
    - Supports up to PIO Mode 5 and UDMA 66/100/133
    - Two PCI bus mastering ATA E-IDE ports

    Audio
    - AC97 CODEC on board audio solution

    IO
    - Two RS-232 serial ports (16550 UART compatible)
    - One parallel printer port (SPP/ EPP/ ECP mode)
    - One FDD port (Supports 3 modes, 1.2/1.44/2.88 MB FDD)
    - Provides IrDA ports with optional cable for transceiver
    - Provides 4 USB ports (2 rear, 2 front)
    - IO Connection Description
    - PS/2 Mini-DIN mouse & keyboard ports
    - One RJ45 connector
    - Two USB ports
    - Two D-Sub 9-pin male serial port
    - One D-Sub 25-pin female printer port
    - Audio I/O: LINE-Outx1, LINE-Inx1, MIC JACK x1
    - One game port

    BIOS
    - Award PCI BIOS with ACPI function
    - Supports multiple-boot from E-IDE / SCSI / CD-ROM / FDD / LS120 / ZIP $] 2 Mbyte Flash ROM
    - Health Monitoring Description
    - On-board voltage monitors for +3.3V, +5v, +12V, Vcore
    - CPU fan speed monitor
    - CPU temperature monitoring through CPU on-die thermal sensor

    Board Dimension
    - Four layers, 30.5 cm x 23 cm (12" x 9.05")
    - ATX form factor

    Certification
    - FCC Class B & CE EMI Regulation Compliant
     
  2. Claydus

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    Ohh are the packages with motherboards and processors good deal or should i buy them separate???
     
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    What about a case do most of the motherboards have the same dimensions into a specific case??
     
  4. Spoon

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    AMD Package
    Pros:
    -Good price
    -Should do pretty much everything you throw at it including games (subject to what video card you get though)
    Cons:
    -old chipset
    -lacks features such as AGP 8x, serial, USB 2.0 (none of these are extremely crucial at the moment though)
    Comments:
    If you're looking for a value system, you should really look at an XP2100+. And if you're looking for something current, you should definately get a more up to date board (meaning Nforce2 chipset). However this package will still do pretty much everything you throw at it. Just don't expect to keep up later on.

    Don't know much about Pentium4s so I won't comment, but if I had to pick a board, I'd stick with intel chipsets (the more current SIS chipsets are ok from what I heard, but I wouldn't touch VIA for intels).

    Simply look at it this way, AMD is good for the dollar and outperforms the P4s in price performance ratio. But AMD will be noisier (P4s are pretty much silent in my opinion). So if you want the luxury of a quiet PC and money is not a huge factor, get intel. If you're on a budget and cares more about how good the computer runs and don't care much about the noise, get AMD. Personally I prefer AMD, cuz I do upgrades every once in a while. So it's not worth it for me to pay too much for the cpu when I give it away or resell it in a year or so.

    Anyways, for a case, pretty much anything will work if it's ATX. Just make sure you get a 300 watt power supply with it (minimum). And if you're going with intel, make sure the power supply has P4 connectors. Most do and would specify it, but just make sure.
     
  5. black jesus

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    Don't be scared to learn as you go. I started looking for something simple, and learned that I could spend 50% more and build a beast.

    You need to state what you are going to primarily use the pc for, and then tailor it for that. I really like Asus mobo's, because they cater to the game market. I'm not a big gamer, but a game board is going to be the most rugged and stable.

    I agree, get a p4, and atleast a 400w power supply from a good company. If you don't have reliable power, everything in the pc is going to struggle.

    www.tomshardware.com will help you alot.
     
  6. Dommi

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    a tiger direct has also given me the raw end of the deal
    b shuttle isnt the best motherboard maker in the world.
     
  7. black jesus

    black jesus OT Supporter

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    Tiger is great

    www.googlegear.com has a better stock and good customer service, but lacks some cool accessories. I buld an entire computer with a 1.8, asus mobo, 1024 of ram, sound and vid card, case, fans, power supply, tdk burner, and cables for $600.
     
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    Ractoon Shibumi in progress...

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    It seems kind of weird that they put a Duron on a board that can take a Athlon XP. It limits the FSB. Especially if you're using DDR RAM. I'd look into it more, those packages look tempting but you can usually get better performance/price if you do a little research.
     
  10. Claydus

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    i appreciate the advice guys :bigthumb:
     

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