Building my first computer, recommendations?

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  1. Lateralus

    Lateralus New Member

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    I'm building my computer, I need some recommendations, and advice...

    P4 3.0E GHz 800Mhz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading

    What motherboard? I've been told I should go with Asus.

    I want to go with a ATi 9800 PRO, should I go with the 128MB, or 256MB? Newegg has them both with for like a $5 difference in price. What am I gaining by getting the 256MB card?

    Thanks.
     
  2. McClane

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    ATI 9800Pro 128mb - $225
    ATI 9800Pro 256mb - $265

    $40 difference, though maybe you were looking at alternate brands?
    Make sure you are looking at actual "Pro" versions, not SE, LE, or XT. Those are all different - some better, some worse in quality. There are also "AIW" ATI cards, which stands for All in Wonder. These come with extra input/output jacks which are nice, but not really neccessary unless you have a specific use for them. (EX: S-video, DVI, etc)

    What you are getting with the 256mb version is a slight increase in performance through more memory. 256 is probably uneccessary at this point in time for games, but will of course one day be the standard, and of course be "old tech" just as quickly. Its a constant evolution :(. I use a 9800pro 128mb for SWG, BF:V, DAoC and they all run liquid smooth. If you really want to get a 'nicer' card, consider the 9800 XT, or the X800 (pro or xt). Both of which will be much more expensive though.

    That is a decent processor, and Asus are solid boards. Other boards that you can reliably consider are anything by Abit and Gigabyte (from my experience).

    G'luck :)
     
  3. Meat0r

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    The PC you're lining up looks good but don't forget to get 1GB of RAM. With regards to the graphics card you'll only notice the boost of the 256mb memory if you're running a game at 1600*1200 with anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering. This is because not a many games at the moment require more than 128mb of video memory. Obviously this will change over time so if there isn't much price difference between the 128mb and the 256mb version then get the latter because it's always nice to be futureproof :).
     
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    If you haven't gotten any of the parts yet, really wait a while I know it'll suck not having a new setup but wait until some of the new hotness in processors and video buses, PCIX for example. At the very least it'll drop the prices of the stuff you want to buy.
     
  5. Jay

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    1GB is not necessary
    for everyday applications (the occasional video game, surfing, pr0n viewing :eek3: ) 512 is enough
     
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    It is if you plan on playing the newest games.
     
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    Save your money for more ram -- get an Athlon64 3200+. It'll out perform that 3.0E easily, and let you get better/more memory.
     
  8. Jay

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    I doubt this machine will be primarily a gaming rig.


    edit: I recommend you do not go cheap on your memory and power supply
     
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  9. McClane

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    Why would one buy a P4 3.0E with a 9800pro to word process and check email :hsugh:
     
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    BUY EVERYTHING FROM NEWEGG. newegg is the best.


    :barfkiss:
     
  11. tau

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    Do not go cheap on the PSU (Power Supply Unit). Antec is good. Sparkle is also good. I've got an Antec 430W "Truepower" PSU.
     
  12. Jay

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    longevity? so that in 1 year it won't be obsolete? :dunno:
     
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    1 year?......in 3 years that computer will still be able to word process and surf the web. Either it's a gaming PC or he has money to burn.
     
  14. Lateralus

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    Actually it is a little of both, I'm not a huge gamer but I want the option to be there when I feel like it. I want a solid computer for whatever I feel like doing and I don't want to have to upgrade it in a year.
     
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    I'm getting an Antec case with a 350W PSU, which I am told will be good enough for me.
     
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    Chipset: Intel 875P

    vs

    Chipset: Intel 865PE

    is the only real difference I see, but I have never used Intel in my life, so I'm a little ignorant in this aspect. sorry =\
     
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    Should be just fine.
     
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    Just seems one asking about specifics on a video card has intentions beyond google.com is all :kiss:
     
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    So I'm probably not going to notice a difference?
     
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    The 865PE and 875P are identical architectures separated only by different memory access timings, partly due to different clock speeds of the memory controller. The 875P is the flagship model and therefore there is a performance difference between the two but it isn't hugely noticable.
     
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    Thanks for the detailed reply :)
     

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