Building a new gaming computer and would like some help v. 1st times a charm

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  1. Cobra Commander

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    Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz
    GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3L LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX
    A-DATA 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333G (PC3 10666)
    SAPPHIRE 100282SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB
    Thermaltake Element T VK90001N2Z
    OCZ StealthXStream OCZ700SXS 700W
    Seagate Barracuda LP ST31000520AS 1TB
    SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner
    Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack


    totals for 1047,92 after rebates, just went over as I missed the OS in your list @ start could downgrade to a GTX 260 c216 and save 140, its slightly faster then a 5770 at the same price point. but personally for a game computer I def wouldn't :p
     
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    I'm in the same boat :wavey:

    awaiting responses... although I guess I'm less baller, my budget is $800 (but will only be buying case and everything inside)

    and already have windows 7 64 bit pro
     
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    So what's the latest technology for running hard drives? Last time i was buying hard drives they were running of IDE ports, I'm assuming technology has since evolved...
     
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    Here is my updated list

    CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail

    G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM - Retail

    MSI P55-GD80 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

    Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860 - Retail

    Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

    PLEXTOR 24X DVD/CD Writer Black SATA Model PX-880SA LightScribe Support - Retail

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

    Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS 1.5TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    EVGA 01G-P3-1180-AR GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - RetailPlease critique. I am not sure if everything is compatible..

    $1416 pre-shipping
     
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    Don't bother buying a new system if it doesn't have an ssd. It's hands down the biggest performance boost you can do on a system.
     
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    :rofl:

    Idiot.
     
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    no he is right.
     
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    I don't even understand what I need to do with that or where to put it :o
     
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    You install Windows to it & some applications. They are crazy fast hard drives.
     
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    You're just all kinds of stupid. :hsugh:
     
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    Don't know if i agree w/ that though. We need a better file system and better coding to take better advantage of SSD's first. My current SSD is capable of 750MB/s reads and 300MB/s writes and enourmous amount of IOPS. Yet it isn't any faster than an X25-M in damn near everything.
     
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    I know mechanical hard drives are bottlenecks.. but saying not to build a system unless it has an SSD is just downright retarded. Cheap SSDs have absolute horrid write performance vs a simple RAID setup of mechanical drives. I know SSDs are fast.. i do use one, but to say a system is worthless without it is laughable.
     
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    Any indilinx, samsung RBB, or intel based drive will stomp any number of RAID mechanical drives for most tasks. You can find small Intel or Indilinx drives for just over $100 for a 30/40GB.
     
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    SSDs will be realistic in about a year as far as price goes(and of course space). I am using an X25-m G2 and it most definitely is quick, but limited with space(continue to use a velociraptor for program installs and holding vhds). If it werent for the price I got it at, i would have never even thought about buying an SSD at this point. Running on a core i7 920, dx58so, 6GB OCZ, yadda yadda.
     
  19. CodeX

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    Hard drives are the bottle neck of load times, once the app is in ram the bottle neck is IO between ram and the processors registers, in other words the front side bus and north bridge chipset. Same thing applies to the video card, a developer can direct game resources directly into a video cards on board memory, from there the bottle neck between it and the GPU is the bus speed.

    Interesting note, most dual and quad core processors of this generation are retardedly inefficient in that they can almost never be fed with data fast enough and end up waiting to receive instructions even when their is work to do on the OS priority queue. Next generation processors and motherboards will use multiple busses to feed the different cores with data simultaneously along with splitting concurrent parts of the application between different physical memory modules... of course to utilize this the application will have to be programmed specifically for it so we won't see this kind of hardware utilized in third party software for another ~3-5 years.
     
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    No idea. But if an X25-M ($250) and an ioXtreme ($900) perform identical something else is definitely the bottlneck.

    Definitely not. There is so little difference in performance between PCIe x8 and PCIe x16. Current videocards just don't require the bandwidth that PCIe can provide.
     
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    That wasn't what I was talking about... :ugh:

    The video cards own bus, between it's RAM and the GPU...
     
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    Core i7 @ 4.4GHz, 6GB of ram. 4096 block size. This card is capable of enormous IOPs. So I am pretty sure that is not the problem as well.
    This is 4k writes 100% random
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    and 4k read 100% random
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    Check newegg on christmas eve and christmas day. They normally have major discounts on those days. Might want to keep your eyes open especially christmas eve night.
     

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