Building a low budget computer

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  1. Casey

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    SHITTY optical drive. LiteOn, Sony, or NEC.

    Stupid processor. get a core2duo -- whichever one you can afford.

    psu is meh. find a fortron/sparkle/enermax in your price range

    case is fugly.

    abit is a picky mobo. if you don't really know what you're doing (you don't) get an Intel mobo.
     
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    what os?
     
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    Okay, well show me a build that would be sufficient for Source games within the price range of $400-500. Keep in mind, I already have the video card and RAM. And for the OS, XP Pro.

    Edit: I'd prefer the case to have a clear sidepanel so I can know when I need to clean inside. :p
     
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    i have already told you what to do. you should not have issues meeting my suggestions within your budget.

    for shielding and EMF issues, I recommend against clear-side cases.
     
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    Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 @$124.99

    GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L @$99.99

    CORSAIR 520HX @$120 after MIR

    that's ~$345.

    hard drive is fine.
    there is nothing wrong with samsung drives. :rolleyes:
    case is subjective. I like antec p182 but that would go above your limit.

    not it's around 485 or so but I didn't include shipping.

    also look at clubit.com because sometimes they have better prices than newegg. chiefvalue.com, mwave.com, zipzoomfly.com are alll good as well.
     
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    if you want a drive that works in 6 months, don't buy samsung.
     
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    Nothing wrong with the E2180, it is a core dual processor. They overclock well and would run any but the most demanding game well.

    Power supply
    http://www.buy.com/prod/Corsair-VX-450w-Power-Supply/q/loc/101/205466485.html
    Corsair VX 450w Price with Google Checkout $51.43 FREE SHIPPING

    The Abit IP-35E is a very good board but getting hard to find, look around and if you can get one for ~$80, buy it.
    http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=29&threadid=2063989&enterthread=y
    I don't like the V version as well so if you can't find the IP35-E look into the gigabyte P35 chipset board that fits your budget.

    hard drive good
    case ok

    Start saving for a better video card.
     
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    damn a lot of dumb people in this forum now. you're a fucking dumbass to buy a coreduo since core2duo has been released.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Allendale is not coreduo. It matches clock cycle to clock cycle with the E4400 series.

    http://www.techspot.com/review/53-pentium-e2140-e2160/page2.html

    For the money, the 2100 series is pure badass.

    Oh, and if you had a motherboard picked out, they must be sold out on it.
    The link is only showing a general Abit search.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Do you want to say "I'm sorry" now or just let your words hang in the air for everyone to see?
     
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    How's this?

    Proc: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773
    Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128034
    PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171018
    HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148140
    Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119106
    CD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106100

    Subtotal:$444.94
    [​IMG]Tax: $36.71
    Shipping:$30.33
    Grand Total:$511.98

    :noes: Am I getting better or worse? I'm trying to get the best bang for the buck. I see that the 6000+ is pretty much the equivalent of the E6600, so :dunno:. And I'm thinking about getting a lower PSU. I used a PSU calculator and it said that I only needed around 350w. So I'm thinking about a 400w or 450w PSU.

    Edit: Also, I know the mobo doesn't have SLI. I don't plan on buying 2 video cards ever. :o
     
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    Eh, not much of a overclocker. :o
     
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    yeah, not many people feel like doing it. I had my old 5200+ which has a stock clock of 2.6ghz up to 3.14ghz stable and because of that I had a better processor than the 6000+ and at the time saved ~$65.

    to oc that processor I linked all you would have to do it change the fsb frequency to 215 from 200 and with the 14x multiplier it will make it go a hair over 3.0ghz... 3.010ghz to be exact. shouldn't have to mess with anything else for that mild of an overclock.
     
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    I'll keep it in mind. But about the build I posted, is there anything else that can be improved or is it a pretty solid build?
     
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    I would say get a mobo that does NOT have built in graphics because that is just one more thing that you will have to disable to get the system running properly and sometimes even when they are off windows still gets confused by it. personally as long as you don't need 8 channel audio I would get: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131042 and if you do need multichannel audio I would get a separate pci sound card anyways.
     
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    Ah, now that I think about it. Could you suggest a decent sound card?
     
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    I'm an AMD fan and right now I'd still go with the dark side(Intel)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059
    GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 $99.99

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116036
    Intel Pentium E2160 Allendale 1.8GHz 1MB L2 Cache $81.99

    And change the power supply to the Corsair 450VX one I listed earlier, it's better then a 500w coolermaster.

    Unless you are a true audiophile, the on-board sound will do pretty good, give it a try before you buy a sound card, you can always add one later if you feel the need.
     
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    Why? The 6000 performs pretty much the same as the E6550/E6600.
     
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    With just a little tweaking in the bios the E2160 will run just as fast as the stock E6600 for a $100 less. Save that money and put it towards a video card which will have much more impact on gaming then the processor.

    I also like the Intel upgrade path right now to wolfdale or yorkfield.
     
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    i'd stick with the 6000+, mainly because the e2160 is only good if overclocked a fair amount. also the e2160 is an pentium d chip. they can overclock to high clockspeeds but are horable at multitasking or doing accual work. so while you could oc it to 2.8ghz it wouldn't perform as well as core2duo would at a lower clock speed.
     
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    The E2160 in NOT a pentium D chip.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core

    "Subsequently, on June 3, 2007, Intel released the desktop Pentium Dual-Core branded processors[5] known as the Pentium E2140 and E2160[6]. A E2180 model was released later in September 2007. These processors support the Intel64 extensions, being based on the newer, 64-bit Allendale core with Core microarchitecture. These closely resembled the Core 2 Duo E4300 processor with the exception of having 1 MB L2 cache instead of 2 MB[7]. Both of them had an 800 MHz FSB. They targeted the budget market above the Intel Celeron (Conroe-L single-core series) processors featuring only 512 kB of L2 cache. Such a step marked a change in the Pentium brand, relegating it to the budget segment rather than its former position as the mainstream/premium brand."


    As for speed,
    http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3112&p=14
     
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    at article talks about over-clocked speeds and the speeds of the 5000+, the 6000+ is a lot better processor than the 5000+. Also he is looking at stock clock and doesn't want to over-clock any. while I agree that the intel upgrade path is better it doesn't sound like that is real important feature.
     

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