Building a "high end" computer for a friend...

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  1. Neuman

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    I haven’t built a computer in a while and some of the shit has changed a bit so I have a couple of questions...



    Right now I’m looking at using the athlon 64 bit processor, but since I’ll be running windows (which runs in 32 bit) is it worth getting this processor? Would it be a better idea just to get a comparable Pentium processor?



    Whats up with these SATA hard drives? All my stuff is IDE but the new thing seems to be SATA. Are these as simple to install as the IDE hard drives? Are there obvious advantages over the IDE ones?



    The main thing my friend wants is to be able to "change songs and start/stop/ff/rw movies" with a remote. I don’t know the best way of going about this. There are all in wonder video cars that come with remotes. There is also the sound blaster audigy 2 that comes with a remote. Would either of these do what he wants? Another option would be to use winxp windows media center edition, and buy the remote for that. Would that work?



    Here is what I have pieced together so far on newegg...



    AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512K, L2 Cache, Windows Compatible 64-bit Processor 939 Pin - Retail



    ASUS "A8V Deluxe" VIA K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL



    Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail


    Seagate 160GB Barracuda 7200.7 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model ST3160023AS, OEM



    (tentitive) ATI AIW RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/CATV/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO" -RETAIL



    NEC 8X Black Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive, Model ND-2510A BLK, OEM BULK





    BenQ FP951 19" LCD Monitor –RETAIL



    Logitech Cordless MX Duo USB/ PS/2 104keys -RETAIL



    Antec Black ATX Mini Tower PC Case with 350W Power Supply, Model "SLK1650B" -RETAIL



    Am I going to have to buy a separate heat sink for the CPU? Are DVD+/RW drives also able to burn CD+/RW shit (audio, data, iso, etc.)?





    Sorry if some of these questions are newb-esque, but like I said I have been out of the scene for a bit. Any insight on the components is welcomed as well.



    Thanks

    Zach
     
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    Since it's a retail CPU, it should come with a heatsink and fan that's decent. If you want to OC it or anything, you'll want an aftermarket one.

    Most if not all DVD+/-RW drives can burn CDs. I'm almost certain that one can.
     
  3. Muchacho_Gasolino

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    They are probably simpler to install than IDE drives, the cables arent huge and hard to route around, the only problem is they use a different power plug from the power source than IDE drives do, but most new power supplies have at least one, and adapters are easy to find if it doesnt have one/you need more. There are a few minor advantages that I know of, for one the increased speed capability of the cable as opposed to the IDE cables, and I think they have a better capacity for RAID functions, although I don't really know much about that. One disadvantage is that you are probably going to need a floppy with the drivers on it for windows installation, as windows does not quite yet recognize them so easily, and if you buy them OEM(like me) you will not be provided one, and will learn this the hard way. You can make one pretty easily though if you have another computer around.
     
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    SATA is also supposed to be faster than IDE, although from what I've read it's not much of a difference right now. Eventually, though, it is supposed to be faster.
     
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    If he has money to burn, go with the 74GB western digital 10,000 RPM SATA drive for the OS and programs, and a seperate drive for storing stuff, something like a WD 160 or 200GB special edition drive, serial ATA and 8mb buffer.
    The 256mb version of the radeon 9800pro video card shouldn't be much more and it uses DDR2 ram which is faster than the standard DDR on the 128MB radeon.
     
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    are you talkin about when you install a fresh copy of windows and when it is first starting up and it says "press f(something) to load 3rd party raid drivers" or somethin like that?

    i mean honestly...this guy isnt much of a computer nerd...or into gaming much...he just wants a machine he can play dj on when he has people over....
     
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    yes thats what happens
    he probably wont have to mess with that unless he reinstalls windows though
     
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    PSU should be more than 350W
     
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    that is almost the exact same 19" monitor i already have selected......just $14 cheaper.

    i dunno how to work raid or the purpose of it. isnt it for backing shit up or some crap? not going to be necessary.

    why do i need more then 350watts? all it has to power is the mobo...single hdd....single dvd drive....i'm not hookin up a bunch of random crap

    if you went into a lil more depth about why i need this different shit that would be helpful....
     
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    That LCD u pick got Response Time: 25 ms so that is not good for gaming or dvds :o
     
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    aye... aim for 16ms or lower.
     
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    350W actually just enough repeat just enough I dont know think about it
     
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    alright..i'll look around some more.

    anyone have some insight on the needing a remote control issue?
     
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    If u gonna play some games like CS that mouse wireless it's not good the keyboard it's ok Im not gonna buy a RF wireless for a mice.
     
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    He Doesnt game....he wants a wireless keyboard/mouse combo.

    here is an updated list

    Processor:
    AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512K, L2 Cache, Windows Compatible 64-bit Processor 939 Pin - Retail $ 239.00
    Motherboard:
    ASUS "A8V Deluxe" VIA K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 939 CPU -RETAIL $ 129.00
    Hard Drive:
    Seagate 200GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive, Model ST3200822A, OEM $ 109.00
    Ram:
    Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, (Twin Pack) 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - Retail $ 220.00
    Video Card:
    CONNECT3D ATI RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -RETAIL $ 198.00
    DVD Burner:
    Sony Internal 16X DVD+/-RW / Double Layer Drive Black, Model DW-D22A-B2, OEM $ 75.00
    Monitor:
    BenQ FP931 Silver 19" LCD Monitor -RETAIL $ 435.00
    Connection Cord:
    Arrow Micro DVI(M)/DVI(M) Dual Link Digital Cable (6 ft), Retail $ 13.99
    Keyboard/Mouse:
    Logitech Cordless MX Duo USB/ PS/2 104keys -RETAIL $ 69.99
    Case:
    KINGWIN Black Aluminum 10-Bay Mid-Tower Case with a Large Side Window, Model "KT-424-BK-WM" $ 91.50
    Power Supply:
    E-POWER "Jaguar" Series 450W Power Supply With 2 Blue LED Fans & Window, Model "EP-450P5-E1" -RETAIL $ 68.00
    Operating System:
    Microsoft Windows XP Media Center 2005 - OEM $ 139.95
    Remote:
    Remote Control with Receiver for Microsoft Windows XP Media Center - OEM $ 39.99
    Floppy Drive:
    SONY Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model MPF920, OEM $ 6.99

    Sub-Total $1,887.41
    Shipping $ 52.94
    Total $1,940.35
     
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    the case i'm getting for him has a clear side panel on it though...so i was wantin some trendy lights inside
     
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    just like the ricers with the cars.... you take appearance over function :rolleyes:
     
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    jesus christ..

    the computer isnt for me...he is spending 2k...he is getting what he wants.
     

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