Building a computer v. 1st time

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  1. hom3lesshom3boy

    hom3lesshom3boy New Member

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    Went on newegg and bought everything i think i need to make my own computer. here are the stats:

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    i'm not looking to build the ultimate high-end gaming computer so i can run oblivion on its highest settings :ugh2:. all i want is a decent computer that won't crap out on me for the next 3 years of college and modable when needed. i also don't know if the above parts are compatible with each other :run:. help a nignog out?
     
  2. PC Principle

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    Go Nvidia instead of Radeon, Get a Cooler Master Case, pay the little extra for a Q6600, ditch the audigy, get a 22" acer on special for 190-220 or so.
     
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    1. The Hanns-G monitors are well-rated. I prefer LG myself, but if Hanns-G uses Philips panels then there would be no meaningful difference.

    2. Don't get the Sound Blaster. Jollyogre can tell you what models of M-Audio cards have individual plugs on the back, instead of the breakout box that M-Audio usually uses. (If he can suggest one with a connector for front-panel audio, that would be even better.)

    3. I have a friend who recently killed his My Book drive by simply knocking it over. Get a drive that you can lay on its side instead of standing on-end.

    All the other recommendations I agree with, especially the one about avoiding the Rosewill case. Their cases are indescribably cheap.
     
  4. hom3lesshom3boy

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    what's the difference between nvidia and radeon? and what's wrong with the sound card :/
     
  5. deusexaethera

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    nVidia makes GeForce video processors, and ATi makes Radeon video processors. (On the "prosumer" level, they also make Quadro and Fire GL processors, respectively.) ATi has a history of making clunky drivers, but under AMD's oversight they're getting steadily better. However, nVidia still holds the high ground at this point in time.

    The problem with the Audigy is that it uses a proprietary interface for front-panel audio. Supposedly, M-Audio cards also have better sound quality, but I never had any complaints about my top-of-the-line Audigy 2ZS -- except that I couldn't use the front audio jacks on my case. If you don't care about this, it probably isn't an issue for you.

    Also, if you're not an audiophile, then the 7.1 audio built into your motherboard should do just fine for you -- it's considerably better than AC'97.
     
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    can you recommend any good 512 mb nvidia vid cards then? preferably in the $150 - $200 range
     
  7. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Going with a cheap case is only ok if it doesn't have a power supply.
    Get the Cooler Master that's going for $40 or so shipped, and put a proper psu in it.

    Seagate = good
    HannsG = ok
    ATI card = good but extremely loud
    Creative = ok
    Corsair = good
    ASUS SLI Premium = good board
    E6600 = good
    WD My Book = ok
    What's the Dynatron for? Case fan? Us an antec tri-cool instead
    ARCTIC Cooling freezer - don't bother. The stock Intel cooler is excellent.
     
  8. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    The 8600gts cards are faster than the ATI 2600 cards, and about the same amount of money.


    This one would be pretty badass for $165 shipped. ($150 after $15 rebate)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130084
     
  9. hom3lesshom3boy

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    what would a proper psu be? as in, how many watts and stuff do i need for the proposed system i'm building?

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    i'm looking at this one, any good?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817104954
     
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    DaveyD Fuck Ohio State, son

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    I just picked up that Hann-G monitor for my brother. It's nice. Decent build. Check www.zipzoomfly.com to possibly save a couple bucks here and there. They offer free Fedex on almost 95% of their stuff.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Fortron is great stuff, but that might be a bit too low in watts.

    Here's a link for top psu's for under $150.
    http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1460

    There's a couple around $80 that the guy rates well.

    I like that site a lot for psu's. That guy does more testing on psu's than just about any other U.S. based site.

    The site is down right now, but I highly recommend that you check back later.
     
  13. deusexaethera

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    Doc, while your point about cheap cases without power supplies is valid, you don't know just how cheap Rosewill cases are. They're practically made of foil. I bought one, saw how cheap it was when it arrived, and threw it in a dumpster instead of spending the time and effort to get an RMA number. It was that bad.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Well I was mainly thinking about the entry level Cooler Master cases.

    They're only around $45 shipped after a $10 rebate or so.

    I could think of something funny to do with a Rosewill case though.

    I used to work at a place that had these big hydraulic presses. You could take one of them and just smash it into a cube and send it back to them with your sentiments.
     
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    is it really necessary to spend that kind of money for a psu for the kind of system i want :run:. it seems like you guys are pushing me towards something beyond my expectations, but you poeple are the experts, so i dunno :dunno:
     
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    You only need to get one cheap power supply that kills your equipment or sends you on a wild goose chase trying to figure out where the random bluescreens are coming from, and you'll understand why a good one is worth the money. Besides, if buying the one I recommended means you never have to get a bigger power supply for as long as you keep (and upgrade) the computer, then that will save you a decent chunk of change.

    EDIT: I had a 460W Vantec PSU running an Athlon XP, three hard drives, and an nVidia 7600GS video card, and after a year it started making high-pitched whining noises, followed a few weeks later by random crashes during bootup. It seemed like it should have been good enough, but it wasn't. Your hardware is hungrier than mine is.
     
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    Exactly.

    Plus you only really need to buy a PSU once in a great while, so you minus well get something nice that will last that long. :)
     
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    ok guys, here's an update:
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    all in all, it's going to cost 1.3k with s&h. i dropped the non-essential parts for later when i actually need it.
     
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    you also seem to have selected an ATA hard drive rather than SATA
     
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    Also, I don't know how stuck you are on that CPU and mobo, but the e6750 has a faster fsb and is better for overclocking, not to mention cheaper. And a good gigabyte p36 ds3r will save you some money is more "future-proof" than that asus.
     
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    what's the difference?
     
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    what's wrong with teh mobo i have?
     

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