Discussion in 'On Topic' started by thegooch, Sep 29, 2009.
So very very want!
What's so special about them?
Next year they're going to be putting out some light profile barrels, I'm waiting for that
That looks neat.
I actually was being serious......
Haven't these been around via various builders for a couple years now?
You must have missed the BCM logo.
Nothing really, it's just a really, really popular AR-15 configuration thanks to its service and use by special forces. Marcus Luttrell used a Mk-12 in Operation Redwing, the events of which are chronicled in his book "Lone Survivor"
The Mk 262 was developed in conjunction with this rifle. Started off as a AMU project, and then Crane NSWC picked it up and crammed it into the "Recce rifle" requested by SEALs. While Mark Westrom gets the public credit in that boiler plate language for some reason, the guy who developed/built the rifle at AMU is now retired... and is the actual outside contractor Crane uses to build the issued rifles/uppers.
Too big/heavy for a Recce rifle though, but it's been a great success in its own right. Army SF/SEALs used this rifle first, and in 2009 they were adapted as the USMC's SDM rifle, killing off the Marine's SAM-R concept.
These are pretty high grade weapons to be issuing en masse. Barrels are Douglas blank, chambered with a AMU secret sauce chamber, turned by Gene Barnett. PRI was ditched after the Mod 0 because the older carbon fiber handguards frayed in tough military environments.
The Arfcom thread on Mk-12s is really sweet, it's the best thread there by far. A marine posts his newly issued Mk-12 on page 38/39. Makes hits on man sized targets at 900 yards too.
If BCM offers decent pricing, i can see this being a success. A real deal Mk-12 upper will cost $1,800 from Centurion Arms or the actual gov. contractor. BCM needs to under cut em.
this man knows
These rifles shoot so good you don't need a cheek weld.
/sarcasm. I just don't see the appeal to SPRs besides the military uses them. There have been plenty of better long range options, not to mention the limiting factor of an AR magwel.
thats pretty much the conclusion i arrived at the other day.
an 18" AR in 5.56 is pointless because i can do the same thing with what i already have.
i'm looking at an AR10 in .308 or maybe an AR in 6.5G
I'm familiar with the history of the rifle and everything, and know they have seemed to work out well in the .mil fronts.
AJ Brown and Compass Lake are still around, so I guess my question was why this is the new hotness (this isn't the first place I've heard people talking them up)? Unless building a spec rifle, seems like an expensive way to have a 18" AR with a bunch of stuff that most aren't going to use (the OPS collar/brake for example, or the top rail), or maybe even "need".
A popular rifle config built by a popular rifle builder/retailer = hotness?
It better be priced well though... otherwise people would be smarter to just buy the real deal, or ADCO's SPR inexpensive clone
Upon reading Lone Survivor it struck me as odd that they would use a mk12 on such a high risk high profile target. I mean they're trying to shoot the guy from a fucking mountain and they decide to use 5.56 with everything else they have available? Kind of weird in my opinion.
Lugging around a Mk13 or Mk11 would have sucked, and they were probably looking to get close enough to ID the guy first.
I have finished 1/2 that book, started lawl school 2 months ago, and haven't been able to read a page since.
Entertaining book but I dont think I share the popular opinion on the matter
cliffs on the book?
It's like jesus came down from the heavens, told you a story, then shit on your chest.
My dick is hard already.
Marcus Luttrell loves Jesus, George Bush, and Texas.
And that's actually a pretty good summation.
PS: He hates liberals