GUN 'Bloomberg Gun Giveaway' draws hundreds

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  1. twistid

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    ANNANDALE, Va. - Openly armed firearms enthusiasts packed a normally sedate government building, hoping to win a pistol or rifle and at the same time send a defiant message to gun-control advocates, especially New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

    The Virginia Citizens Defense League, a gun-rights group, organized Thursday night's "Bloomberg Gun Giveaway" in large part to thumb its nose at Bloomberg, who accuses some shops of allowing illegal purchases of firearms that later were used in crimes in his city.

    The city has filed federal lawsuits against more than two dozen shops, including six in Virginia.

    Two guns were awarded Thursday, a Para-Ordnance pistol and a Varmint Stalker rifle, each worth about $900. The winners did not immediately receive the weapons — they will still be required to undergo federal and state background checks.

    The first winner, Jay Minsky, responded with an obscene hand gesture when asked what message he hoped to send to Bloomberg.

    "If he doesn't like people in New York having guns, he should deal with New York," said Minsky, who grew up in Brooklyn. "Just keep out of Virginia."

    The event drew an overflow crowd at a Fairfax County government building, with the fire marshal aggressively enforcing an occupancy limit of 150 for the meeting hall. Others stood outside and peered through open windows. About 200 people showed.

    County officials opposed the drawing but concluded they could not prohibit a group from using the community meeting room because of its political views. The gun-rights group has met in the building for years.

    The event drew protests from gun-control advocates and the parents of those killed in last month's shootings at Virginia Tech.

    Peter and Cathy Read, whose daughter Mary was one of those killed, held a photo of their daughter outside the building.

    "We're not here to have a debate. We're here to witness for our daughter," Peter Read said. "The victims need to be witnessed to. People of the commonwealth can make intelligent decisions about what's right."

    Philip Van Cleave, the league's president, said he sympathizes with the families but maintained that some of the deaths might have been prevented if somebody had been armed.

    Many in attendance said they were motivated not by the chance of a free gun, but to make a point to Bloomberg and express support for the Second Amendment.

    "It'd be nice if I win, but that's not what this is about. It's about my constitutional right to defend myself," said Ron Stuebing, a league member.

    The event had been planned for months as a fundraiser for two gun shops being sued by New York City. But officials said that giveaway violated state gambling laws, so the league quickly organized a new giveaway, open to anybody who showed up at its Thursday night meeting.

    Most but not all in attendance carried holstered handguns. In Virginia, individuals need a permit only to carry a concealed weapon. Openly visible, holstered guns are permitted without a permit.

    Anybody who showed up at Thursday's event was eligible for the drawing — except Bloomberg and his immediate family.

    Asked Thursday about the giveaway, Bloomberg said, "I think it's sick, is the nicest ways to phrase it."

    Van Cleave responded that the members of his organization are law-abiding citizens, including many retired military, police officers and firefighters.

    "If you're saying these are sick people, then I'm proud to be sick," Van Cleave said.
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    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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  3. Why I didn't know about this or get a free gun is beyond me...
     
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    Parents of students killed at VT were there protesting? Jesus....
     
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    yeah, people wanting to defend themselves are sick!
     
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    McLEAN, Va. (AP) - There's a new plan for the so-called "Bloomberg Gun Giveaway" in Fairfax County, now that the original one has been ruled illegal. Commonwealth's Attorney Robert Horan says the raffle by the Virginia Citizens Defense League violates state gambling laws. So the group is now changing the rules for Thursday night's drawing, giving a ticket to anyone who shows up at the meeting in Annandale. The prizes: A Para-Ordnance handgun and a Browning Varmint Stalker rifle, each worth about 900 dollars. A raffle for people who spent money at two gun shops that Bloomburg is suing has been postponed until the group determines how to make it legal. Bloomburg is suing the two Virginia shops and several others after a sting where private investigators went into the stores with hidden cameras and simulated illegal straw purchases. Defense league President Philip Van Cleave says his group is being unfairly targeted by county officials who oppose guns.
     
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    welcome to nova where I used to live. Might have been interesting if I went down and took picture for everyone but I forgot about it.
     
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    I'm sick too, and damn proud of it.
     
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    some people are just idiots
     
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    Westboro Baptist Church should have picketed it and said that "god hates guns" then maybe someone woulda finally took care of them:mamoru:
     
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    VA ftw!! (when it comes to firearms) lol
     
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    I feel sorry for the parents of that dead girl and all but they can go fuck themselves. The handguns were being raffled/drawn to people that are going to have background checks.
     

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