GUN Big rifle noob here need some help...

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  1. shadowoperative

    shadowoperative Rawest asian alive, so raw they call me sashimi.

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    I went to my local gunsmith today and asked some questions but I feel i didn't get enough information. It just seemed like he wanted to sell me the product.
    So I come to WMD to see if my questions can get answered.

    1. First off i have questions about the caliber. Alot of guns are marked with the caliber .22, .30-06, .30, .308. some guns have 9x12 something something and same with the 30-06 what does that mean?

    2. Whats a .308 WinMag? Are there different kinds?


    3. Can all rifles shoot any type of caliber bullet that it is or smaller?


    4. How can i find the best rifle for a first timer?



    I have more but i can't think of any at the moment. Thanks for the help!
     
  2. Soybomb

    Soybomb New Member

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    .30-06 is the cartridge that rifle is chambered for. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-06_Springfield You must only shoot ammunition in your gun that is of the same type its chambered for. its like the only stuff that will fit and is the only stuff that is safe.

    I recommend you buy a cheap .22 rifle and practice the basics (marlin 60, ruger 10/22, marlin 981t, cz 452 trainer) A box of 500 rounds is $10 and you can work on sights, trigger pull, etc. If you get something like a .300 winmag you'll likely be a bad shot and have a hard time improving. Alot of the bigger rifle rounds are well over $.50 a shot. 300wm is going to be over $1 every shot.
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    1: Caliber, when it is denoted with a decimal point, denotes the width of the round in inches. .22LR, for example, is .22 inches across. For a given caliber marking (.22LR, .308, etc), there is also a commercial standard for the rest of the chamber. If the caliber is written as #x##, then that is the width of the round by the length of the case. For example: 9x19 (9mm luger), 9x18 (slightly shorter, 9mm Makarov), 9x17 (even shorter, also known as .380 ACP).

    2. No such thing as .308 WinMag. .308 Winchester is a sort of all purpose round. It can be used for everything from hunting to target shooting. I would NOT recomend one as your first gun, mostly because the cost of the ammo these days will prevent you from really getting any amount of range time in.

    3. The round that a rifle can fire is based on the chamber in the rifle, that is, the place the cartridge is jammed into before firing. ALL rifles must use the same caliber that they are marked for if you want safe operation (there are a very few exceptions. Some .22LR rifles can fire .22 shorts or longs. And some .47-70s can fire -90s or -110s)

    4. Best rifle for a first timer? Ruger 10/22
     
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    put down the bottle, sober up, then try again.
     
  6. shadowoperative

    shadowoperative Rawest asian alive, so raw they call me sashimi.

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    ok but what does 10/22, 981t mean and the thing i didnt get about the caliber is what is the stuff after i know .30 but what does the -06 mean?
     
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    The 06 is when it came into service for the US military I believe.
     
  8. shadowoperative

    shadowoperative Rawest asian alive, so raw they call me sashimi.

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    ahhh now i see, and so is mm just a different way of saying caliber?


    and yeah i've betting the same thing about buying the 10/22 hopefully they are cheap where im buying them at.
     
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    shadowoperative Rawest asian alive, so raw they call me sashimi.

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    yeah i just read that on wiki. it said 1906 thanks though.
     
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    You shouldn't have to pay more than $200 for a brand new 10/22.
     
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    thats what he said.
     
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    round 200$ for a 10/22.give or take.
    then you start modding and it becomes a $500+ rifle
     
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    Those are model number, the ruger 10/22, the marlin 981t, etc
     
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    jayhat You have the personality of a dead moth.

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    i really am drunk as shit right now ahahah . The post seriously didnt make sense to me loil. :wiggle::rofl:
     
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    yes, for instance, .30-06 can also be written as 7.62x63
     
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    shadowoperative Rawest asian alive, so raw they call me sashimi.

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    ahhh now i remember one of my other questions. Modding what exactly is it? Is it just adding a scope better bolt different stock?
     
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    Modifying the rifle. Just like anything else you can modify, you are just making changes to it to suite your needs.

    One reason the Ruger 10/22 rifle is so popular is because of the HUGE aftermarket support for it. You can buy and swap out ANY part on the rifle to make it "better." If you are interested in the 10/22, this forum or http://rimfirecentral.com are good places to search and ask questions.

    I started with a $200 10/22 and turned it into a $500 rifle pretty quickly :o
     
  18. PanzerAce

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    Once my stuff comes in, its going to be a ~700 dollar rifle :hsd: (counting the scope)
     
  19. SnakeEater

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    goin with an APV?
    if so,it`s a pretty decent scope.got mine in few days ago.
    bought if off ebay for like 114 shipped.only took a couple day to recieve
     
  20. PanzerAce

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    nope, a Leupy. When I sold my 10/22, I kept the scope, and now it has nothing to sit on. So its going on the ruger.
     

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