best video card for CS: source?

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  1. Spartan

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    im torn between ATI and NVIDIA. which card will give me the best performance and value? i was looking at the 9800 pro and the 6800gt but im not sure? any other suggestions are welcome. thanks.:bigthumb:
     
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    the 6800GT is leaps and bounds better than the 9800. That card is a mid-level card.
     
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    6800GT fo sho
     
  4. AriS

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    x800xt
     
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    depends on the game....for example ID is married to nvidia, so the 6800 gives better performance, whereas valve is married to ATI ....so despite personal preferences, ATI tends to perform slightly better for Source engine based games.....since you want to play counterstrike source, ATI will give you SLIGHTLY better performance, tho if you played using either card i bet you wouldnt be able to tell the difference (visually) between either of the high end cards...
     
  6. Spartan

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    is the gt worth the extra money over the 9800?
     
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    Anything above a 9600xt will play cs source very nicely.

    If you are picking between the 9800 and the gt, get the gt its a newer card and will last for a long time.
     
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    ATi is very un-impressive right now... nVidia is killing em.
     
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    :werd: I'm pretty happy with my 9600XT, but when I upgrade, I'm going for a 6800GT. ATI has been pissing me off with their unwillingness to develop their high-end cards in AGP 8x.

    But in this case, you can't compare a 6800GT with a 9800 Pro. More of a X800XT vs. 6800GT case, I think. Last I remember, someone told me that the 9800 Pro compares fairly well to an FX 5950.
     
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    i'd rather have the 6800gt over the x800xt, too.
     
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    Nvidia redeemed themselves with the 6xxx series, and the best bang for buck card out there right now is the 6600GT. It will most likely handle well any game thrown at it in the next 2 or 3 years. Whatever you do do NOT get any card from the FX series, worst crap ever released, Nvidia lost a lot of customers because of it.
     
  12. mace

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    make sure you have a good processor too.

    I had an athlon 1600 xp w/ a 9600 xt and i was getting around 15-20 fps in cs:source
    I upgraded to a athlon 64 3200+ and I get around 70-99 fps
     
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    i run a 9600xt and im happy, im not tryna run resolutions of 1600x1200 so it dont matter to me
     
  14. SugarCoatedSour

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    What are the rest of your system specs? I've got a 9600XT, but I haven't bothered to buy HL2 yet because I'm not sure my system will run it smoothly. Right now I've got this:

    Radeon 9600XT
    Athlon XP 2700+
    Crucial 512MB DDR400
    Abit NF7-S

    Until I save up for a 6800GT, I'll have to stick with the Radeon 9600XT.
     
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    you're system should run HL2 ok, with the exception i would upgrade to more ram. i used to run an xp 1600+ w/ 1 gb ram and the 9600xt and was able to play HL2 ok.
     
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    I agree. I have an XP2100 OC to 2700 w/ a GF4 Ti4200 and it does okay with HL2.I only have 512MB of dual channel DDR333 too.
     
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    Awesome. I actually just bought another 512MB stick of DDR400. Should be coming in on Wednesday :bigthumb:
     
  18. FreeSpace

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    Actually, if you are looking at the sub-$200 price range, a 9700 Pro is perfect. People tend to forget this model, but it's really only about 3-6 fps slower than a 9800 Pro, and many can easily OC to 9800 Pro speeds (In fact, as long as yours has Samsung RAM, you a guaranteed to OC to 700MHz, because that's what it's rated for). Some OC to slightly below 9800 Pro speeds, but even at that speeds you won't notice anything.

    In terms of real world performance, you can't distinguish between the two. In fact, just to prove it:

    http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-06.html

    http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-07.html

    http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-08.html (Note: By tweaking Doom 3, you can easily achieve 60fps on a 9700 Pro. I did.)

    For the high-end, I tend to recommend the X800XT over the 6800GT. ATI lately has had MUCH better drivers than nVidia...nVidia's newest ones have numerous problems with old chipsets. ATI's have not.

    If you look at nVidia's new drivers, the TNT2 is pretty much inoperable (And the claim it has support), and the Geforce4 Ti series of cards fans cut off when they are not supposed to, i.e. in gaming.

    True, the new Catalyst 5.1 drivers do have SOME lockup issues, but this is a rare occurance. They are fixing it as we speak.

    I don't know about you, but I'd rather have my game lock up than lose a card I paid $200 for a few years ago :mamoru:.
     
  19. P07r0457

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    sorry, you linked to tomshardware which disqualifies anything you have to say.
     
  20. FreeSpace

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    I know. Tom's Hardware is biased as hell, but the only thing I ever use them for are their VGA Charts benchmarks, which are unparalled. For everything else, I use NTCompatible.

    They love AMD and hate ATI, which is why I don't trust them, because I am an ATI fanboy.

    Would you trust a review site that said: "ATI's questionable texture filtering called into question" when nV did the same thing a year ago and they never reported it?
     
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