A&P Best lens(es) for shooting motorsports

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  1. vtec1994

    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    Im starting to look into getting a DSLR since I feel my S3 isnt cutting it anymore when I head to races.

    Was thinking of a used XTi body with a pretty nice zoom lens. Looking for something that will do really well with panning. Something that will focus fast but pics wont lose quality at high zoom. Something in the 200-300mm range.

    Dunno, just rambling about what I want. I really have very little understanding of how DSLR lenses work :o Learn me.


    So I guess Ill need a lens for fast action, panning shots. And maybe something else for taking paddock shots and other close up images.

    Flame on.
     
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    wizeguy4 New Member

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    you may want to make sure finaancially this is something you want to commit to. you are looking to spend a decent amount on lenses to do the job.

    but I am not a motorcross guy but we do have some that will surely chime in
     
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    70-200 F4 IS would be a good lens on a 1.6 crop body.

    You will likely want to add a grip, as the the XTi feels small with a zoom attached.

    I've also heard fairly good things about the EF-s 55-250, and 70-300 IS. These would be cheaper options.
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    How does more zoom equate to less cost? Is the 70-200 a more quality lens overall compared to the 55-250 and 70-300?
     
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    It's not necessarily the zoom that adds/subtract to cost. It's about how 'fast' the lens is, and the image quality it produces.
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    Ive noticed a lot of times, Ive needed to go full zoom on my S3 to get a tight shot, but then 9 times out of 10, the image is fuzzy.
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    Better go used for lenses or new?
     
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    tetsuo And shepherds we shall be...

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    also, you might look into the 100-400 if you need more reach.
     
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    Yes. The 70-200 is an "L" glass, and targeted more toward professionals. Where the others are consumer grade lenses. Both the 55-250, and 70-300 have good image quality, but lack in many other areas. IE variable apertures, rotating front elements, extend when zooming, and overall build quality.

    Personally I bought the 70-200 F4 IS, and I love it. It is a 1000-1200 dollar lens though. However, it can easily be sold again for minimal depreciation. 10-15% depreciation. The 55-250, and 70-300 could easily depreciate more than 25%.

    Also the speed of a lens, or how fast it is depends on two things. How quick the lens focuses, and the size of the aperture. Big aperture means more light hits the sensor of the camera, meaning you can take a properly exposed shot in less physical time. (say 1/1000 vs 1/250 of a second) this equals less motion blur. Less motion blur is not always wanted, but a faster lens give you the flexibility to decide how you want your shot to look.
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    I guess when I refer to fast, I want to to be able to focus/re-focus fast. Too many times I end up with a blurred shot because the S3 couldnt focus fast enough.
     
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    the s3 also has a big shutter lag compared to DSLR
     
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    tetsuo And shepherds we shall be...

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    if you want a faster focus, then make sure you get a lens with usm.
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    yea, thats probably half the issue as well
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    Ok, so Canon 70-200 F4 L IS USM

    now what about something with not so much zoom?
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    maybe a wide angle type deal
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    Shit, Im not made of money here :o
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    Just registered at Photography On The Net. Gonna read a bunch of stuff on there.
     
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    Toknia AT-X 116 get my vote on a 1.6

    It is the next lens I'm buying.
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    what about a nice mid range? something that has a bit of zoom, but nothing crazy like the 70-200?
     
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    I hadn't put too much thought into a lens with this focal range. I currently use the lens that came with my camera. EF-S 17-85 4/5.6 IS. This is not a terrible lens, but it's not great.

    I suppose if I was sticking with EF-S mount. Then a 17-55 2.8 IS? Or save the 1G that would cost, and invest in a similar focal lenght L glass with an EF mount.
     
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    tenxia OT Supporter

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    vtec, if you want to shoot sports, then you have to spend the money. period.

    you need fast lenses to freeze action. fast lenses are expensive.
     
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    vtec1994 It always rains at Le Mans

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    Yea, I was more saying I couldnt buy the stuff all at once. :o
     
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    OneTwo me>you OT Supporter

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    umm, no.

    If you want to shoot sports in poorly lit locations/events, THEN you will need a fast lens.

    If all your shooting is things in the bright daylight, then your f2.8 lens is nothing but a waste of money.


    My suggestion is get a 18-200, or better yet. Wait for the tamron 18-270 since it has image stabilization and will be about ~$600 and will cover every range you need. You'll learn later if you need a more specific type of lens.
     
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    Frank N. Beans I hate BMW's OT Supporter

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    I recommend NOT getting IS. The non-IS version takes IMO the most crisp pictures of the 70-200mm L lenses. The IS is not necessary IMO either. That is a great lens......rented it many times. I normally just rent the 100-400L though.......its great for all 'on track' shots, as well as distant pit/padduck shots as well.

    For close up shots.......use your kit lens. Get a couple ND filters and a CP as well. If you don't have a kit, or simply don't want to use it......get a 10-22mm. Yeah you've still got a 1.6 crop body, but it will be great for some cool close up shots in the pits.

    Both lenses for not much over $1000.....
     

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