MMA Best Core sport for mma?

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What is the best core martial art to work from?

  1. Boxing

    4.3%
  2. Judo

    4.3%
  3. BJJ

    26.1%
  4. Freestyle Wrestling

    39.1%
  5. Greco Wrestling

    4.3%
  6. Sambo

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Muay Thai

    21.7%
  1. Rommel

    Rommel friends forever

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    Discuss?

    In order:
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               Wrestling 
          BJJ-------------Boxing
    Judo/Sambo-----------Muay Thai
    
    I say wrestling simply because it allows you to dictate where the fight goes. Whether you stay on the feet or whether you take it to the ground. Personally i think that wrestling is the best thing to build around. I think whether you are a BJJ fighter or a Striker wrestling is going to have to be in your repetoire and be a prominent factor in your training.

    After that i think BJJ needs to be there to first make sure that you have offensive and defensive submission capabilities and too tighten up positions and to aid ground transitions and explore other areas that wrestling doesn't address.

    Then boxing to
    A) Hurt or KO your opponent
    B) Set up takedowns ala Fedor

    After that i think everything else is merely plugging holes and augmenting previous skills. I guess you can say kicking and kneeing is a disicpline in itself but i think that boxing is more important in the grand scheme of striking. But a good Thai fighter can cause havok on the inside with knees and if you can kick like rizzo or cro cop then it's just as good as boxing because you can slow down your opponent dramatically. Great Muay Thai can cancel out a good boxer but i think as for overall effectiveness then boxing is the way to go.

    After that there are different styles of wrestling such as greco, judo and sambo all which have different plus points in a fight. Judo for it's clinch and different trips and throws which are great for upright fighting, Greco for grinding an opponent down and tiring him out and sambo for it's nice mix of judo and wrestling combined. However i think these things go in cycles, shots are being defended well so greco and judo takedown are all the rage and then vice versa.

    What is everyone else opinion on this?
    I've mainly addressed the standup takedown issue with these arts because it's easier and the ground game has so many different aspects that i didn't want to blow up this post to epic proportions.

    I guess the poll part is pretty worthless but polls are always fun
     
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  2. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    I'm a bjjer, and i agree with you. For MMA, wrestling skill is more key than anything else. BJJ is a very close second.
     
  3. d0nk3ypunch

    d0nk3ypunch New Member

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    I agree with wrestling.
     
  4. FlyingNun

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    freestyle wresling
     
  5. Maestro Nobones

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    I agree wholeheartedly with the first post
     
  6. brolli

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    most definitely freestyle wrestling.
     
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    Intellex Dogs love me cause I'm crazy sniffable OT Supporter

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    Where's TKD? :dunno:
     
  8. Rommel

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    I was going to include it but then i knew it was defer from object of the poll.
     
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    brolli OT Supporter

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    tkd is more like an alright supplemental art at best. The above mentioned arts are definitely the essential core styles.
     
  10. Rommel

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    i was just joking about including tkd

    it's like a how often do you shower poll?
    1) once a day
    2) once a week
    3) once a month
    4) what's a shower?

    the last option serves no real purpose so i only included realistic options that are pretty much proven in mma.
     
  11. JordanClarkson

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    I'd say Freestyle or Greco. The only difference is in Greco you throw from the clinch instead of going for the legs. I don't think leg takedowns are difficult for Grecos to pick up so their overall takedowns are superior. Randy Couture has a Greco background and he's the only man that could take down Chuck at will.
     
  12. brolli

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    yeah, leg takedowns are a lot easier than learning the upper body takedowns. Randy taking down tito at will was also impressive.
     
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    I would say running.
     
  14. brolli

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    nowadays Id say good muay thai is almost as important as having a solid ground game. Usually when someone with excellent wrestling develops good muay thai like chuck lidell, they become so difficult to beat.
     

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