benefits of cardio rather than eating less

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  1. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    i know cardio has benefits for cardiovascular health and such, but my question doesn't really pertain to that aspect.

    let's say someone is trying to lose fat and they set their calorie limit at 2500 for the day. would there be any difference between A.) eating 2800 calories and then doing cardio to burn 300 calories and B.) eating 2500 calories and not doing cardio?

    from my understanding, the EPOC associated with cardio is very low and wouldn't contribute to burning that many calories post cardio. so are A and B essentially the same thing if cardiovascular health is neglected?
     
  2. Equipped

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    This is a good question, I have been wondering the same thing.
     
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    tryfuhl New Member

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    science or not, I do better when performing cardio
     
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    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    what do you mean "do better?" you feel better in general or see better results if you have cardio figured into your routine?
     
  5. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    i'm beginning to like cardio.:greddy: so no, i don't plan on skipping cardio.
     
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    Phineas Q Stork Active Member

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    I feel a lot more healthy ever since I started doing cardio. It might slow down my bulking gains a tad bit, but oh well.
     
  7. disblohs

    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    i'm asking why it's better. i naturally assume doing is the better option, but i want some information as to why.

    edit: also, the stipulation is that calories are the same.

    if anyone has some sort of study pertaining to this i'd be interested in reading that
     
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    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    yeah, when i first started up with cardio i felt a shitload better.
     
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    Is it better for body composition?
     
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    This was asked on bodyrecomp.com...

    ok so on those same lines in a calorie deficit

    A. Does the body realize a food deficit i.e. (500kcal deficit)
    B. Or an energy deficit i.e (250 kcals + 250kcals of cardio)



    From a lot of standpoints (esp. hormonal), it sure seems like it's the energy deficit. Whether you reduce food intake by 500, or eat at mainteanance and do 500 cal/day of activity, the end result is the same. I think this is especially true if you're weight training.

    Lyle


    isn't there some kind of partitioning with cardio though

    I think the effect is going to be relatively small, especially compared to weight training.

    That is to say this.
    1. If you compare someone just dieting to some combo of calorie restriction and cardio alone, the second guy will do better and there will be a difference in body comp changes.

    2. But when you add weight training to the mix, I think it gets less clear. A lot of guys can get really ripped from nothing bu weight training + caloric restriction. Then again, it sure *seems* that most of them are doing higher rep/shorter rest type of weights (which has a cardio like effect). Of course, some people also seem to need extra cardio toget lean. Whether this is a deficit thing or a fat mobilization thing, I'm not sure I can say. Except in the case of women, whre it's probably both.

    Lyle
     
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    OMG!! Did Lyle say high reps to 'tone'????
     
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    Werdna Livin' the SLO Life...

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    I've often wondered the same thing myself. Something to take into consideration (especially if you're obese and not just cutting) is lifestyle change. If you're cutting out 500 calories and doing no cardio, you'll lose weight but you're not going to want to stay on that deficit diet forever. If you cut 250 calories and do 250 cardio then you're training yourself to be more active and hopefully making a lifestyle change that'll stay with you the rest of your life.
     
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    Uh, that's pretty stupid, I hope you don't try and lose weight the rest of your life, you'd end up being a walking skeleton.
     
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    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    So Lyle is saying he doesn't think it makes a difference doing one way or the other if someone is lifting. Weird
     
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    not at all, he said that the people who got leaner from weight training and calorie restriction *seemed* to be the ones whose routine was more like cardio....high reps lower resistance less rest.


    you were being sarcastic?
     
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    well duh, I mean you're going to go back to your old lifestyle of eating whatever you want.

    Get an av
     
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    :rofl:
    You're a fucking retard, keep having 3000 daily caloric deficits dipshit.
     
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    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    i wasn't sure if the body used nutrients differently during exercise in such a way that it would help burn fat more effectively. that being said, i don't know anything about the body.
     
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    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    that's good to know. so if someone were to eat like shit one day and felt the need to counter those calories with cardio, in the end they would be back at square one? aka 800 extra cals eaten one day and 800 cals burned during cardio puts us back where we started
     
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    disblohs I can't shake this little feeling I'll never get a

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    good to know :bigthumb: thanks
     
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    so do you not belive that HIIT along with higher intesity cardio raises basal metabolic rates for up to 8 hrs post activity? Creates a more anabolic hormone environment?

    i am of the opinion that low intensity cardio basically counts in the in vs out equation and that is about it. I do belive that higher intensity activity has peripheral effects on weight loss.
     
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    yes
     
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    Yep.;)
     
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    hmmm, very good question... looks like it doesn't make a difference which way you do it from what i can gather in this thread but i guess it depends on the person like christophers said
     
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