MIL Becoming an officer

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  1. puppeteer107

    puppeteer107 Be mine, sister salvation

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    So how easy is it to become an officer for an enlisted man? After I graduate I am going to join the Army and I want to be an officer so I can make a career out of it, but I want to enlist first and hopefully serve one tour before becoming an officer. I don't want to be some pissant college grad without any sort of military experience trying to tell people what to do :hs:

    And I want to do the infantry or some other combat mos if that makes a difference. If I wanted to sit at a computer screen all day I wouldn't be joining the service :o
     
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    jmx2323 OT Supporter

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    not sure how Army does it if you enlist with a degree then want to at a later time go to OCS.
     
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    many military jobs eventually end up behind a very shitty desk with outdated machines. but with that being said: i am an army officer. went to ocs right out of college. honestly i would recommend you go in as an officer from the start. even if you have enlisted time under your belt, being a platoon leader, Xo, and etc is a completely difference animal from being rifleman joe in the mortar platoon.

    goodluck either way you choose.
     
  4. whitecouch

    whitecouch spendin' our golden years in OT Supporter

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    Actually there is a slight difference between enlisting without a four year degree and enlisting with one! When you enlist with a four year degree you go in as an E-4. I would recommend going for a three year enlistment or as short as you can get away with if you insist upon having prior enlisted experience. If you have the degree I recommend going straight for being an officer. Just my humble opinion.
     
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    You don't have to be an officer to make a career out of the military.
     
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    what year are you in college?
     
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    If you are coming out of college now, don't go in as Enlisted unless you want to stay Enlisted for a few years...but if you do that your degree is somewhat going to waste. Why not use it? Go to Officer Candidate School once you graduate, it lasts 13 weeks and you'll come out an Ensign (O-1).

    What sold you on the Army?
     
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    calm down navy, lol
     
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    No big deal.

    I just referred to the Navy because that's what I know.
     
  10. puppeteer107

    puppeteer107 Be mine, sister salvation

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    I want to do a combat MOS, artillery, infantry, tank crew whatever. And from what I've heard the Marines don't let you choose an MOS so they're out of the question :o
     
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    puppeteer107 Be mine, sister salvation

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    I'm going to graduate next December, past the point of no return :hs:
     
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    army does not let you choose your job as an officer either.
     
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    you can put in a wish list or do the ADSO program which may only be for ROTC cadets. ADSO, lengthens your commitment, but gives you your choice of branch or duty station.

    Or, you can commission with the national guard and select your branch that way as well. Again, this may only apply to ROTC and not those who choose OCS.
     
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    I can say that if you go Marines on the officer side, your almost surely going to be and infantry officer for your first tour.
     
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    Neither does the Army. You can "suggest" what you want through a "Dream sheet" but what you get is up to the Army. And if you do OCS, you do not get a choice at all.
     
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    :wiggle: i did ADSO for MI branch detail Field Artillery

    lets see if i get it, i think my top choices were that

    Engineers, Armor, Field Artillery, Signal, Infantry, MP, and Air Defense
     
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    Couldn't be further from the truth. A truer statement would be, "If you go Marines and you put 0302 at the top of your wishlist, you have a very good chance at being an infantry officer".

    edit- and if you get infantry officer, you aren't just an infantry officer for one tour.
     
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    What is your name? I'll make sure you get Chemical...:p

    ADSO is not a bad option, but I think it is not a good idea to add on 3 years of AD, with out actually ever experiencing it. JMHO.
     
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    Gaunt blood for the blood god OT Supporter

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    not sure how the army works their shit, but you migth be able to get into a one year ROTC program if you are getting an education in a field that they desperately need degrees in.
     
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    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    All officers are just overpaid enlisted doing less work :mamoru:
     
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    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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    My buddy is a Nuclear Biological Chem officer... he's been busy.
     
  23. MumblingJoe169

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    iv been in for a while, and i dont recommend it for most people, but the way i figure, im gonna wanna do the branch i wanted if i do get MI and a branch detail, so that will be about 6 years right there


    :squint: my buddy at fort carson is a chemo with 10SFG, i want nothing to do with that branch
     
  24. Noah

    Noah The things we know best are the things we haven't OT Supporter

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    Sorta yeah, sorta no.

    The needs of the Army come first, however OCS folks can request a specific branch. My request was honored (Infantry).

    As for getting into OCS after being in the NCO ranks...there are several former NCO's in my OCS class now. They provide a HUGE advantage to us college ops. Unlike college ops, the time from your packet drop until you enter OCS might be a while. For college ops, I was starting less than 2 months after my interview.

    Back to cleaning TA-50 and prep work for graduation :wiggle:
     
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    just to toss in my too sense

    i fully support your decision to get some time in service under your belt before becoming an officer...as long as you realize that its going to suck
     

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