MMA Bas responds to Kimbo

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  1. Atmosphere

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    http://www.fightersonlymagazine.co.uk/news/viewarticle.php?id=3077


    Regular readers of Fighters Only will know that earlier this year we spoke to Dutch legend Bas Rutten. One of the subjects was his former student Kimbo Slice. The two fell out recently and Rutten says he told Kimbo he could no longer train him as he “turned into an asshole”. (Click here for original interview).

    Last week we talked to Kimbo and he responded to Bas’ comments by saying he is “not a good teacher” (click here).

    To say this ruffled El Guapo’s feathers would be putting it mildly. Rutten sent an email to Fighters Only last night saying he “had to respond to this”.

    Rutten wrote:

    Hey guys,

    I didn’t say that he was an asshole, I said that he TURNED into an asshole, I actually told him this also about 5 weeks before the Petruzelli fight, I told him that I thought he turned into a asshole, he said that he didn’t realize that and apologized, he did that two more times that day and even called me to say he didn’t knew he was doing that. Later I called him an asshole because all of the shit that he took for granted, I also told him that I had no respect for him in our last meeting, but why I said that? I won’t even go there.

    I never said “I tried to teach you stuff but its not working”, I don’t say the word “stuff” when I mean skills or technique, I said, I try to teach you skills but you are not listening. Example, all the fights before the last one, he would print out my game plan, well, he didn’t need to print out my game plan the last fight he had against Petruzelli, first line in the game plan? “DO NOT rush in!”

    The night before Petruzelli I told him to do some heel hook escapes (he was still going to fight Ken at that time), he said he didn’t need to do that because it was not going to the ground. I told him that I liked his attitude but I wanted him to do it “Just for sure”, but he said no. I told him “Don’t let me tell you “I told you so” when Shamrock rips your leg in half”, he said “I don’t know if that’s good to say to me before a fight, mentally wise?? Mentally wise? WTF? I don’t think it’s a good idea to not do what I tell you to do. See what I mean? He didn’t listen.
    Pretending to be a friend and getting paid GOOD for my work? Ha ha, OK, lets see here.

    Lets say that he made $100,000, I couldn’t train him two times a day so I told my buddy at my gym, Randy Khatami, who’s a great boxing coach and also teaches some basic submissions, that I would take him in the morning, and he would take him at night. Now everybody tells me that I just have to pay my friend a certain amount of money, like a “per hour” deal because it would be better “money wise” for me. But since I believe that a TEAM works together, I just pay him half of what I make.

    Lets do the math here, 10% of 100,000, is $10,000, that I split in half, so I make $5000 in 5 or 6 weeks. I also told him BEFORE I started training him, that he had to understand that when I had a commentary job, that I had to do that, since this was not a “money making machine for me” (try to live in CA from $5000 in 6 weeks and support a family, haha, I dare you). He and his manager Mike, who’s a great guy, told me they understood that.

    Since I believed in him, and considered him a friend, I said NO to a whole bunch of commentary jobs because I wanted to be there for him for the entire time. Meaning, I actually LOST money training Kimbo. Well, actually, with the last fight (because they re-negotiated), I think I evened it out, but never made money.

    I did all this because I liked the guy, I like his friends and I think he has a great family that needs support. We would have a lot of fun when we were travelling. EVERYBODY told me to NOT train him, “He’s a thug, it will backfire, he will f**k you in the end”, and God knows what more they told me.

    Nope, “he’s a great guy, a family man and friend”, that’s what I told the whole freaking world! You think was lying about that? You know me, I always tell the truth, it’s funny that he says this, because I considered HIM my friend.

    After our split I even told his manager Mike that I could set him up with pro wrestling in Japan, he still had to provide for his family right?

    And a bad teacher? Ah well, I don’t need to answer this, but just so HE can read this.

    -I started Genki Sudo’s career, when Genki heard I was in the US he moved to LA to train with me, I trained him about 2.5 years, I put him in his first fights, he was just a wrestler coming in, look at him now.

    -Carlos Newton came to train with me for three months, lived in the gym, I really made him better, ask him what he learned and how his career went after that, won his next 5 fights in a row.

    -Mark Kerr, I brought him up to speed, every fight that I trained him for, he won, what happened to him after that, was his own fault.

    -Duane Ludwig did/still does good, he was the first one to KO Jens Pulver, and I don’t think he ever lost when I trained him.

    -The guys from the IFL, the Anacondas, were kicking ass when I was with them.

    -And then I helped a whole bunch of “already top fighters” who came to me to help them, to polish up their fight game.

    -Oh, and lets not forget that I trained him and he won all his fights until he stopped listening.

    If Kimbo would have done everything that he did in the beginning when he came in, he had great potential. To now blame that on the people who trained him, very loser thing to do. And if it was so bad, why is he still with Randy Khatami? He trains him in the style as I do because I told him so. See what I mean? He makes no sense.

    Lets see what he did in the “Ultimate fighter” with his new and improved training.

    To put it in his own words. “Haha, but its all good, we all do what we gotta do”.

    Godspeed and party on!

    Bas
     
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    Anybody else reading this with Bas' accent?
     
  3. Redneck Shinobi

    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    that sucks. :(
     
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    No shock here, Kimbo is a douche. "Bas is a bad teacher"... lol
     
  7. Tonster MBA

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    told you so :squint:
     
  8. Gogoplata

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    You've passed Joe_Coo, Ed Cullen and SubOptimal as my least favorite Cager. You are such a little arrogant prick. You need to get your ass kicked to get your shit in line.
     
  9. checkii

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    No, he heard it from Bas!!! definitely not from any of the 20 articles that have been saying this same thing over and over.
     
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    Wow buddy, sweet.
    There are hero cookies for you.
     
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    bas > kimbo
     
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  13. Tonster MBA

    Tonster MBA OT'r of the Year 2013 OT Supporter

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    Shut up you fat fuck, no one cares what you have to say, you suck at Jiu-jitsu and you are a stat whore who doesn't really know what the fuck you are talking about.

    Talk to me when you medal at a fucking tournament or do something to prove your worth. You are insignificant.
     
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  15. Gogoplata

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    ROFL..

    Prove my worth to the shit talking Momma's boy "bro" from SoCal? Guess what homey - people from this forum have rolled with you and every one of them has said you suck and bark way louder than you bite.

    :rofl:

    You couldn't carry my jock or my wallet to the locker room faggot. You're fucking 12 years old Son. You wouldn't say a thing to my face :rofl:
     
  16. Redneck Shinobi

    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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  18. RunninWild

    RunninWild How subtle of you

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    OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH NO YOU DIDNT!
     
  19. Tonster MBA

    Tonster MBA OT'r of the Year 2013 OT Supporter

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    I have only rolled with chechen and that was back when we was a purps...


    Like I said, when you medal, we will talk. I have to tangible evidence to prove my worth, like I said your skills are meaningless because they are just verbal. I enjoy being from So.Cal I don't understand how that could possible be a bad thing. Also, no, I wouldn't say anything to your face, I am a nice guy and don't talk shit, but you could be your ass I CAN back up my talk on the mat. I am not saying I could beat you, because I have no source how much you train, what I do know is that you are afraid to talk about it, which leads me to conclude you don't know shit.
     
  20. checkii

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    Fuck me? No, Fuck You Mother Fucker!!! You think you're tough? Come right over to this large section of padding on the floor and lay next to me and see who's tough!!!!!
     
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    Well I am not going to get my clothes dirty.... :ugh: savage.
     
  22. Redneck Shinobi

    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    but he has medals :eek3:
     
  25. Gogoplata

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    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

    <breathe>

    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


    "tangible evidence of proving your worth"

    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:



    By the way - chechen said you sucked - so have other people that have rolled with you.. Keep talking big Clark Kent

    :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

    "I'm not saying I could beat you, but you're not listed on the IBJJF website" :bowrofl:


    Don't know shit about me or my academy but talking shit? Epic!
     

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