MIL Balls; This man has them.

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  1. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    tl;dr: Helo pilot picks up casualties in a hot landing zone. Pilot gets shot in the face and helo is damaged. Pilot flies rescued peeps to safety.
     
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    there was some really shitty computer rendered picture of where it hit him last night
     
  3. BlueApocalypse

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    Pretty fucking brave. :)
     
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    Jesus.
     
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    American SuperBeast New Member

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    You're right. Thats some balls
     
  6. eu4ia

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    Pretty impressive, but where the hell was the other pilot?
     
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    This is from the CNN article:

    Obviously we don't have all the details, but unless the copilot was some retard who couldn't fly at all, or some other really good reason, that is really dangerous for the wounded pilot to stay on the controls.
     
  8. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    is there some procedure that the copilot can take full control of the helo?
     
  9. eu4ia

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    The controls are the same on both sides of the cockpit, and there are procedures and techniques for transferring the controls between the two pilots. There is no way to isolate the other person from the controls though.

    I'm not trying to armchair QB the guy, he was there for the situation and made the call. Flying wounded with damage to the aircraft's AFCS is impressive. I am just curious what the situation was that the seriously wounded pilot kept the controls instead of transferring them to the copilot.
     
  10. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    The urgency of certain emergencies requires immediate and instinctive acton by the the pilot. The most important single consideration is helicopter control. All procedures are subordinate to this requirement.


    transfering the flight controls with a damaged flight control system can be tricky. You know what it can be like taking controls from someone else, and taking a second to figure out where they had force trim set. Now do that with damaged flight controls. Aircraft was under control, and the PIC saw no need to transfer controls. Also, when I am under high levels of stress I prefer to be engaged in a activity. Flying the aircraft may have been his coping mechanism at the time.
     
  11. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    The Apache has a fly by wire backup system where the CPG can isolate the flight controls from the pilot.
     
  12. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Know anything about the Chinook?
     
  13. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    Yes, the flight controls are linked.
     
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    I'd rather transfer the controls of a damaged aircraft between two conscious pilots and deal with reorienting then, rather than have the pilot pass out from blood loss and have to grab them when you are in a bank or climb/dive.

    I am sure in that environment the cockpit was plenty busy enough for the wounded pilot to be engaged in some sort of task to keep him focused. If I was in the helicopter and the PC was wounded in the head without knowing how severe it is, and bleeding alot, I would be very uncomfortable with him staying on the controls.

    Like I said earlier though, we don't know any of the details and the pilot was the one there, made the decision, and made it back.
     
  15. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Oh you fixed it. I thought you were speaking Alabamian. I understood, since I learned it in NWFL.
     
  16. brackac

    brackac Fuck all of this. OT Supporter

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    EU4IA and I just demonstrated how different a thought process can be between two pilots, and who knows which is the right answer for this situation every time. Fortunately it worked out this time. We also have the luxury of sitting here and discussing it, not making split second decisions while some insurgent is trying to blow our heads off.
     
  17. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Maybe those thought processes should be different, depending on the role of the aircraft.
     

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