Attn: P-chan and other TV Experts!!! I need your help pick out a TV for me.

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  1. Shikado

    Shikado David-Michelle-Edgar-Tony :wtc:

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    cliffnote: bought Akai 42" and returning it. Now, budget @ no more than $3500 for a 16:9 format with less than 18" in depth.

    Ok. Here's the situation. I've been using a small 19" Sony CRT-TV forever for the bedroom. I retired it to my nephew. I need something bigger with 16:9 format and less than 18" in depth cuz I'm sitting it on top of my dressor. Since I'm going to move soon(6 mo), this is going to be a main living room TV so I want something decent in size. I bought a 42" rear-project Akai PT4298HD (made by samsung http://www.akaiusa.com/products/pt4298hd.htm ) for $999.00 from Costco. It supposed to do 1080i but so far, the quality is terrible (tried both 480i and 480p mode). Also, it's a full size cabinet so it's a bit too tall on top of the dressor. I'm thinking about returning it.

    This is what i need:
    TV depth must be < 18" (I'm putting on top of the dressor.)
    must be 16:9
    must be <$3500

    After looking for more choices, I've narrowed it down to this 2 or cheap (low resolution) 42" plasma. What's your pick and why.

    Sony KF-50WE610 50-IN Grand Wega™
    rear-projection LCD TV$ 3,299.99(MSRP)
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    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=FYiDVTjtAiSDfQdEYy2JXnfhcHW2YCGlEGk=?CategoryName=tv_ProjectionTVs_RearProjection_43to53TVs&ProductSKU=KF50WE610&Dept=tv


    Samsung HLN4365W
    Wide Screen HDTV Monitor TV with DLP™ Technology
    $3699.00 (MSRP)
    [​IMG]

    http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLN4365WX%2fXAA
     
  2. 04

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    Well I personally would go with the Samsung. I just have a negative bias towards LCD's since all the LCD's in my experience have had terrible black levels. DLP is quite a bit better from the units I have seen. But if you need the largest picture size possible, Sony may be the way to go.

    However, if possible, I would try and check out each before buying.

    And I definatly don't reccomend any plasma units unless you simply don't have the space for a larger unit.
     
  3. ixlr8

    ixlr8 New Member

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    The 50" LCD is an amazing set and the price is right. It will last forever, all you have to do is change the light bulb every 8 Years (approx) ($300 canadian).
    Also if you are going buy it do it soon because they're not available until january. (in canada at least). And don't expect to get a deal if the same situation applies because retailers are not worried about selling them (due to the limited Quantity).
     
  4. Shikado

    Shikado David-Michelle-Edgar-Tony :wtc:

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    Should i be worry about dead pixel(lcd) or dead mirrors(Dlp)?
     
  5. Shikado

    Shikado David-Michelle-Edgar-Tony :wtc:

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    I bought the Sony @ sears last saturday.
    $3299 - 10% offer - 10% (saleman gave me coupon).
    0% until 11/04 + Sony dvd for $99 - $99 mail in rebate.
    :bigthumb:
    Picking it up this weds. :wiggle:
     
  6. james330i

    james330i Imported Redneck

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    I was set on the Samsung until I demo'd both models right next to each other. I was dead set against LCDs, from what other people have told me, but until you see the new Sony and put them side by side with Samsung, there's really not much difference.

    Samsung has a more realistic feel to it, but the Sony is sharper. Blacks weren't a problem on both sets. So, i'm going with the cheaper model. I still have reliability issues with Samsung so I'll go with the sony.

    Both tvs are awesome though, you can't go wrong with either one.
     
  7. Sixspeed

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    I would go with the DLP technology. It is capable of reflecting more light resulting in a more clear and detailed picture. Also, there is a huge weight difference between the two models.

    On a side not, I am assuming that the sony is also a HD ready TV, do you have a HD signal?? How about a HD receiver?? Analog signals on a HD-ready TV suxs donkey balls.
     
  8. StevesVR4

    StevesVR4 Get Arrested

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    From what I have read, dead pixels are a bigger problem then dead mirrors. TV manufacturers are willing to accept some dead pixels on LCD TVs and won't do anything about it unless there is a decent sized clump of pixels that are all dead (if they will do anything at all). If you are not too close, you should not be able to see a single dead pixel unless there is a lot of white/black on the screen and then you might be able to see the pixel. This does not apply to stuck red pixels, those apparently are easy to see at most any distance. I don't know why and I don't have any first hand experience with that so I can't comment on its validity. As for stuck mirrors, they are relatively rare and from what I have read, if you have some on your TV, Samsung is pretty good at replacing the mirror array. Of course Samsung might/probably will change their policy on this in the future so no guarentee on it getting fixed. Since the mirror is either on or off, a stuck mirror will always result in either a solid white or solid black pixel with nothing in between. With that said, I personally would lean toward the DLP.
     
  9. Shikado

    Shikado David-Michelle-Edgar-Tony :wtc:

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    Updated: So far so good. Don't see any dead pixel yet. Progressive DVD looks fabulous. Analog TV is :meh: PS2 on reg RCA cable is so-so. I need to spend more money for HDTV unit. :hs:
     
  10. Sixspeed

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    Do you have digital cable or satelite dish?? If you have digital cable you can just get the hd cable box for an adittional 4 or 5 bucks on your montly bill, instead of buying the HD reciever for around 300-500 bucks.
     
  11. Shikado

    Shikado David-Michelle-Edgar-Tony :wtc:

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    no. :o

    OKay, so i learned that for OTA channels, only certain shows is DTV and they're on UHF. The question i have is that what happen during other shows(non-hdtv) on those channels? :confused: Would it just be blank (non-broadcast) and u have to go back to VHF to watch it? It's seem unreasonable to spend $500+ for a STB HDTV receiver to watch only 2-3 shows per week. :down: BTW, what's the best bang for $ on STB receiver? :o

     
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    egbok Old Dirty Bastard

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    Non HD broadcast will be either in 4:3 for stretch out depends on your local stations. I would recommend the Zenith 420 (OTA only).
     
  13. Sixspeed

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    Like egbok said, you will get to view non-HD signals, they will just look stretched out.

    The cool thing about getting digital cable w/HD receiver is that there are a ton of channels that are broadcasting in (HD). ESPN, Discovery and also the ABC, CBS, NBC broadcast most of their primetime line up in analog and HD (they just have different channels, for example, my local anolog CBS channel is 2 and the HD CBS channel is 202). As far as the best bang for the buck, don't know just yet. Like you said, it's hard to justify shelling out another $500.00 for the HD receiver when you just drop $1800.00 for the monitor. Thats why I went for the digital cable w/ HD receiver for now.
     
  14. Specialist23

    Specialist23 OT Supporter

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    wow, we actually agree. only thing is, go with the samsung 437w or 467w. they are far better products. usually carried by higher end stores, but best buy got them this year. you'll be paying nearly the same price, just the "7" series are better. plus the 437w will have a black border while the 467w will have a really sexy and sleek thin silver border not seen on the "65" series. pm me if you want to know more.
     

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