ATTN: GNP when you get a chance

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  1. Intellex

    Intellex Dogs love me cause I'm crazy sniffable OT Supporter

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    Can you help me change up my routine. With MMA taking up 3 days per week I no longer have time to do bodypart/day lifting. I'd really appreciate if you can help me focus my training on the main pieces I should be working on.

    Thank you.

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    what days are you doing what exactly, and for how long?

    and what is your overall goal?
     
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    Intellex Dogs love me cause I'm crazy sniffable OT Supporter

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    I do BJJ MW and Muay Thai on Fri

    So those days are off from lifting. I usually lift every day of the week. I don't have time to go twice a day or anything.

    I actually want to bulk up to 220, I'm at 195 right now. My functional strength has gone up considerably from MMA, But I'm afraid I'm loosing strength overall and beginning to drop weight as well.
     
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    Intellex Dogs love me cause I'm crazy sniffable OT Supporter

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    Think I should go with a

    Shoulders/Chest/Bis
    Legs Split
    Back/Tris
     
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    chris's routine ftw
     
  6. Intellex

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    I'm looking for a nice balance. I don't care about being the best at MMA, I'm not gonna compete. But where I felt powerful but slow before. I now feel agile, but I feel like I'm dropping weight/strength.

    I'd like to continue a decent progression in both areas. I'm sure I'll slow progress, but there has to be a way for both. What do you think big C?
     
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    I see that as more of a "building a base" routine. My base is pretty good. Am I wrong?
     
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    nah yur right but thats what i need :o
     
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    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    hypertrophy type training is a no no
     
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    What do you mean?
     
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    I would tend to agree, it is almost impossible to stress the muscle the way it needs to be to induce hypertrophy and then rest and provide adequite nutrition. It is doable if you want but it involves cutting back on the MMA.


    As far as what I was going to recommend....basically I would take a couple weeks and only lift 2x a week. Just a simple Upper day and simple lower day. Medium volume and medium intensity. After that I would go into a 3x a week lifting routine similar to the shit that Joe Kenn preaches.

    The other thing you need to consider is overall periodization, because the MMA training is part of your "workout" now and has to be accounted for.
    Read this and get a feel for how this program works and I'll help you put together an adapted version for your schedule. Here is a more bodybuilding specifc version http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=293pend2

    Either way the point is to plan so that you aren't constantly in a maintenance phase and you can make gains. To do so though you'll end up cutting back on the MMA training. Then when you go into the next phase of the training cycle you can up the volume of MMA training.

    Bottom line it gets more complicated periodizing with sport in the picture but it can be done.
     
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    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    listen to gnp on this one and not someone like me...thats what i mean ;)
     
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    I love the way Joe Kenn approaches in season training for his football players, i am trying to do somthing similar only using more MMA specific movement and work to rest ratios.

    here is a link to his tier system: http://bighouse77.tripod.com/

    hard to get through but when you do its worth it.
     
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    Thank you! I appreciate this more than you can imagine :bigthumb:
     
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    Good info, this answered a lot of questions I've had as well.
     
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