A&P ATTN: fashion/ lighting gurus, halp!

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  1. xenon supra

    xenon supra OT Supporter

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    shooting a low-key "fashion show" at GT tomorrow.

    I'm in charge of the portraits of the girls after the runway walk.

    i'm bringing my white seamless, 1 softbox, and 3 sb600s.

    I'll fire 1 sb600 through the softbox for dramatic lighting, and then i wanted to set up the 2nd and 3rd sb600s as a hairlight and a background light.

    any recommendations on the placement of these lights? feel free to MSpaint a diagram :bowdown:

    any help appreciated, i know nothing about hairlights...
     
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    the simplest, according to what you laid out as what you want:

    1- key light, softbox, cam left or right
    2- hairlight, 6-8" snoot, opposite the key, aimed at her head.
    3- background, behind the model, aimed at seamless. set the flash to 35 or 50

    this is a very standard, safe starting point for 3/4 or full body shots.


    If you have another light, you can throw a beauty dish up high and slightly to the side for your key.

    Put the softbox below that at 1 or 2 stops under.
     
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    so the keylight (softbox) should be facing the hair light? they should be pointing at each other?

    then should I just put a flash on the floor pointing upwards at the background, or put it on a stand and use the model's body to block it?

    thanks for the help. :bigok:
     
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    Yeah, put your softbox at a 45 deg angle out, cam left or right.
    I think the hairlight or a backlight looks better when its opposite the key.

    If its on the same side as the key, you light up the same side of her, front and back.
    The other side falls off, but that can work too, depends on what you're going for.


    As for the background, what kind of rear spot do you want.

    You want it circular, centered around her upper body? Then raise it up on a stand, behind her body.

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    Backlight-only looks like this:

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    On the floor works too, but you'll get a more of an oblique shaft of light.
    Think of angling a flashlight to visualise the shape.

    If you want to do that, try sticking it off to the side, so you rake the light across the background.

    Something like this:
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    Or you could just mess around some, throw some light up front, and a bit hotter on the back just to be different.

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    One more thing, in your situation, I would not put a light behind the model.
    You need her to stand mostly upright, within a certain box to block the stand.


    if I were shooting girls coming straight off the runway, remember they'll be all juiced up.
    Don't damp that enthusiasm down with too much posing.

    I would stick with this setup:

    1- key light, 45 deg out, softbox, 1/2 power
    2- hair light, 45 deg opposite the key, behind the girl. FLAG it to cut off spill. Light her backside at 1/4 power
    3- background, further out, 11" snoot to throw a bright spot behind her.

    I wouldn't just blast the background, I want some gradation of tones there. Probably throw a red or blue gel for interest.



    Nothing behind her, just get her in front of the seamless.

    This setup won't "model" their features, but it's 'durable' since you can get them to do pretty much anything/any pose, and it won't get in your way.
    Face on, sideways, kicking her heels up, legs spread wide, arms akimbo, blowing kisses, bent over, fuck off face, whatever.

    Make sense?

    good luck man, have a good shoot.
     
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    Some good info in here, maybe one day I'll actually be able to use it :rofl:
     
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    Drunken Karnie Midget In Yeo We Trust, All Others Pay Cash OT Supporter

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    I think i'm gonna cut/paste this shit into a .txt and use as my own personal edu. :eek3: :coold:
     

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