GUN attention all you m&p sonsabishes

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  1. el capitan

    el capitan New Member

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    so but i feel like ranting a bit :rant:




    so this guy i work with asks me what kinda gun can he get on a budget. so against my better judgement i point him towards the m&p. i figured with all the sack riding they couldn't be all bad.

    so today at work he tells me that he has rust on the slide around the front sight. he's shot it a total of 1 time about 200 rounds. took it home, cleaned it with hoppes and oiled it, and then put it away. took it out of the case yesterday and hello rust.

    i'm going to try to get pics next week. (work isn't cool with firearms AT ALL) so i'll have to either follow him to his place, or rely on him to e-mail them to me.


    i know that there will be 11xbillionty posts about smith and wesson customer support, but seriously how did they get this SO wrong. rust, bad mag catches, feeding issues...

    is it that we want them to make a good semi auto so badly that we look past all this shit and chalk it up to being teething problems with a new model thats really not new. you'd think the finish would be the one thing that they couldn't screw up.



    cerally did glock,sig,springfield have issues like this? seriously i don't know
     
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    The smart money says he's retarded and stored it in a case or something. I mean really its a stainless steel slide, coated with tenifer, supposedly oiled and yet it rusted?

    IBsoyyourethetardtheyreknowntohaverustissuesitsthenewxd
     
  3. el capitan

    el capitan New Member

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    whats wrong with putting your oiled gun in its case? from the sounds of it, its around the base of the front sight, or in that general area. maybe he missed that with the oil? it just seems shitty to me that its a month old, and in a case, and still can't take it. hell i haven't cleaned my g23 in months, and it stays in a holster 24/7 and i have zero rust.

    ibimwaitingforMtechtotellmeaboutweaponshield
     
  4. Slick26

    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    The gun might be a month old to HIM, but probably not a month old.

    Sounds like a shitty deal, there's no reason for a gun to rust that soon.
    I say ask him what the 1st 3 letters of his cereal number are, its probably an earlier model.

    :sad2:
     
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    thats what i said to him, but i still felt like a dick. i don't claim to be some kind of super gun guy, but he came to me for advice. i actually was pushing for the glock. so i guess its on him. but i still feel bad for him.
     
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    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    Its not on him at all, its on S&W completely.
     
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    el capitan New Member

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    no doubt. seriously is it not ok to store your firearm in its case? i'm starting to freakout about my 686. is there something i'm missing here. i don't wanna open its case and see rust :noes:
     
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    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    I've never had a problem, but I've heard its not recommended for long periods of time.
     
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    i never leave it in its case for long....... imma take it out tomorrow today whatever time it is. range trip FTMFW
     
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    springy101 When god comes and calls me to his kingdom, I'll t

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    Why aren't you supposed to leave guns in cases? Isn't that what they are meant to be stored in?

    <---------------- Gun noob.
     
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    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    Its what they come in, but not designed to be stored there for long periods of time.
    Metal that doesn't get a chance to breathe is going to start acting up after awhile.
    Every mfg is different, as they use different metal treatments and finishes.
     
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    springy101 When god comes and calls me to his kingdom, I'll t

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    Ok, so are you talking about the hard plastic cases?
     
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    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    Yeah, mainly the ones with the foam inside. Which is most of them.

    Again, I don't know everything, and not even saying this is absolute. Just saying I've heard it before, although I've never had a problem.
     
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    Foam traps moisture. Moisture causes rust.

    If you covered your firearms in cosmoline, you wouldn't have any problems with rust. :mamoru:
     
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    I guess he won't be asking you for advice anymore.
     
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    If I coat myself in cosmoline = immortal? :eek3:
     
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    Congratulations. You have discovered the fountain of youth. :bowdown:
     
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    :rofl:

    Cases hold moisture in the foam, when you place your gun in contact with the foam.... If I had to store my gun in a case it would be in a silicone gun sock first. Storing one in a leather holster isn't really recommended either but I don't think its quite as likely to cause any rust. Holsters have an acrylic sealant put on them after they've been made so they're pretty unlikely to suck up water again I think.
     
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    thats cool, but i think having it in a case for a month is probably more common then most might think.
     
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    It is, and who knows what really happened here. My gut just tells me that if it comes down to user error or a stainless slide with a tenifer finish rusting, that its probably user error. Its not like there's carbon steel under that black.
     
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    Stainless can and will rust. Especially depending on exactly which stainless it is.

    I have a couple of guns stored in cases and leave them for months at a time. I just make sure they're lubed well and throw a big silica gel packet in each one. Also never store a cased gun under your bed. It's humid under there.
     
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    didn't i see that you could remove tenifer with vinegar?
     
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    Perhaps, and I seem to recall that it doesn't add much corrosion protection to stainless anyway, but you generally still have to really screw up to get a stainless gun to rust.
     
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    Dumbstixlars Ron Paul/AR-15/Glock/old car/Scooby/R/C croo OT Supporter

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    Doh!

    <---- Keeps %90 of his guns in cases.
     

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