ATI Radeon 9600PRO vs 9600XT, 128mb ddr/128bit

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  1. Derrict

    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    I'm shopping around on Newegg.com for a new vid card to replace my GF3 Ti200 64mb/no clue on -bit

    CONNECT3D ATI RADEON 9600 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -RETAIL $111.00


    - Specifications -

    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600/325MHz
    Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/400MHz
    BUS: AGP 4X/8X
    Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + TV-Out(S-Video/Composite Out) + DVI
    Support 3D API: DirectX 9.0, OpenGL 2.0
    Cable/Accessories: 1 Cable, 1 Adapter, 1 CD, Manual
    Max [email protected] Color: 2048X1536
    Retail Box (See pics for details)

    Model#: RADEON 9600 128M
    Item#: N82E16814142012

    vs

    Jetway ATI RADEON 9600XT Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "96XT-AD-128C" -RETAIL $137

    Model# 96XT-AD-128C
    Item # N82E16814153011

    Specifications:
    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600XT/500MHz
    Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/600MHz
    BUS: AGP 4X/8X
    Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + TV-Out (S-Video) + DVI
    Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 1.5
    Max [email protected] Color: [email protected]
    Cable/Accessories: CD Driver, Manual

    I've read some reviews and both seem to do well over the NVIDIA cards, just wondering if it's worth extra on the XT. About the only game I play frequently is CS1.6.
     
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    i bought the 9600XT and all i play right now is CS 1.6 and Farcry right now. If your just playing CS you probably don't need the XT since the game IS 5-6 yrs old
     
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    I'd probably go for the XT seeing as its not much extra.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    What benefit would I see from a 256mb ddr over a 128mb ddr? This piece is about the same price ($103):
    SAPPHIRE ATI RADEON 9600 Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP -BULK


    - Specifications -

    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600/325MHz
    Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB DDR/400MHz
    BUS: AGP 4X/8X
    Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub)+TV-Out(S-Video Out/Composite Out)+DVI Connector
    Support 3D API: DirectX®9, OpenGL®2.0
    Cable/Accessories: 1 Cable, Driver CD
    Max [email protected] Color: [email protected]

    Model#: RADEON 9600 256M
    Item#: N82E16814102295

    Rating: Vote(s): 48 Review(s): 27
    Free FedEx Saver Shipping
     
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    maczter Life is trying things to see if they work.

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    One immediate benefit I see is that the 256 MB card supports the same ma resolution as the 128 MB cards, but at a higer refresh rate (85Hz vs. 60 Hz).
     
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    That applies mostly to CRTs right?

    Also, if i want the highest refresh rate, but i dont plan on running games on anything higher than 1024x768, would 256mb make the difference? Or does it only provide refresh rate benefits on higher resolutions?
     
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    maczter Life is trying things to see if they work.

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    Given that it's basically the same price, I'd go for the 256 MB version.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    If my monitor is only running at 70Hz refresh, then I wouldn't see much reason to currently go with a 256MB card?
     
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    maczter Life is trying things to see if they work.

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    It certainly never hurts to have excess video RAM, especially if it's not costing you anything extra.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    For what I'm looking for, would the faster chipset and memory speed on the 9600XT be better than the extra 128megs of ram? An extra $34 isn't much of an issue.

    Specifications:
    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600XT/500MHz
    Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/600MHz

    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI RADEON 9600/325MHz
    Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB DDR/400MHz
     
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    Not so cheap over here :hs: so does it make a difference on refresh rates on lower resolutions?
     
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    maczter Life is trying things to see if they work.

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    good call. i didn't catch that. i'd definitely go with the XT then.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    Thanks for the advice. I'll go with the 9600XT
     
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    how about this one
    POWERCOLOR ATI RADEON 9800SE Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "R98SE-C3" -RETAIL

    [​IMG] N/A,7/22/2004 9:40:27 AM

    i love this card, softmodds easily, i can max out all my games without problem but i have to turn on filters to get rid of the cheakerboard effect, one thing though, althouth the ram has 680 mhz available, it will run at 340 mhz, if u set it to 680, the comp will crash.
    [​IMG] N/A,7/15/2004 5:00:05 AM

    Got this card a day early softmodded without a problem and the results are amazing. I went from a Geforce4 ti 4200 to this my aquamark score went from 18k to 40+ i could not believe it. My 3mark 03 went from 1800 to 5555+ and this is at stock speeds. Be warned though this thing puts out some heat. When I first got it I install the omega drivers just to see if it would softmod and just ran one of the ATI directx demos like the Chimp or the car paint and from 6in away I could feel the heat with my hand. Installed the GiantII along with some artic silver 5 the entire surface area of that thing is warm to the touch. I could not be happier with the results. The best card for the money.

    Specs
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    9800se => 9800 pro
    512 Geil DDR 500
     
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    only $144
     
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    If u wanna go with the 9600xt get this one Gigabyte 9600xt $149.99
     
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    I just got my 9600XT and I highly recommend it. It's the regular one by ATI and it runs UT2K4 just fine for me, so I think you might like it for CS and Farcry. It's not much more than the Pro, so I think it'd be well worth it.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    9600XT seemed to review much better than the 9800SE. Click on links if you're bored.

    edit: fixed a link
     
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    Well 9600xt 3Dmark03 3800
    9800se without softmode 3700 with softmode 5xxx+
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    Either one still blows away my GF3 Ti200 8xx 3Dmark rating lol.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    [​IMG]

    This score is out of the box, un-tweaked, and driver included with the package. I'll run another test later and see if current drivers improve it any. I'm getting 50-100 fps on the tests that the GF3 ti200 was only getting 1-2 fps.

    This was my score with the GF3 ti200 :\
    [​IMG]
     

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