GUN ATF reform bill passes House of Representatives...

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  1. krott5333

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    [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]NRA-BACKED
    "BATFE MODERNIZATION AND REFORM BILL"
    PASSES THE U.S. HOUSE
    [/FONT] [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]NRA-ILA is pleased to report that this week, the U.S. House of Representatives passed NRA-backed H.R. 5092, the "BATFE Modernization and Reform Act of 2006," by an overwhelming bi-partisan vote of 277-131. [/FONT]
    [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]As you know, H.R. 5092 was drafted in large part to address BATFE abuses at Richmond, Virginia area gun shows last year. H.R. 5092 will help curb BATFE's efforts to revoke dealers' licenses for minor paperwork errors, establish new guidelines for BATFE investigations, and improve the appeals process for dealers. Currently, for most violations, BATFE can only give a federal firearms license (FFL) holder a warning or completely revoke his license.[/FONT]
    [FONT=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]This week's vote is a significant victory for America's law-abiding gun owners and dealers and should serve as a reminder to us all about what is at stake on Election Day. While the U.S. Senate will likely not consider the measure until after the November elections, today's vote is an important first step toward reforming BATFE.[/FONT]
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  2. Artyboy

    Artyboy Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of

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    So did The Military Commissions Act of 2006. What good are firearms if everyone is too afraid to use them because they might be labeled a terrorist and thrown into a dark hole for the rest of their lives without even getting a trial? Even if they do get a trial the prosecution can still withhold evidence from the defense. The prosecution doesn't even have to PRESENT the evidence that they have if it's classified. Oh and did you know that the House approved of warrantless wiretapping? The kicker is that most Americans approve of this bullshit.
     
  3. Ford4Life

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    The ATF bill will never get out of the Senate, especially if the Dems take control.

    If the Dems win I'm waiting to see how long it will be before we start hearing shit about another AWB, and if Bush will have balls big enough to veto it.
     
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    Artyboy Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of

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    You're about to start seeing the republicans turn public opinion around. Even if the dems DO take over Bush won't veto an AWB because he wants one.

    Read this article

    Pay particularly close attention to the updates at the bottom of the article. They explained what transpired when the Senate was hammering out the bill. Both sides are full of idiots but at least the republicans stick to their guns.
     
  5. Ford4Life

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    Bush was for the AWB because he knew it would never get to his desk, it was a campaign tatic that he could use to sway "moderates" with no real consequences. There was no chance in hell Tom Delay was going to let anything get past the House, he even said in an interview when asked about a renewl of the ban something like "over my dead body".

    I'm not sure Bush would sign one, but it wouldn't suprise me. Fiscal conservatives already hate him, if he signed a new AWB he'd lose what conservative support he has left.
     
  6. Artyboy

    Artyboy Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of

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    You obviously didn't read that article :wtc:. http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?p=64286874&posted=1#post64286874

    He must be getting some support from somewhere because he just convinced Congress to pass a bill that lets him imprison anyone that he labels a terrorist without giving them a trial. 12 dems even voted in favor of it.
     
  7. Ford4Life

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    He got the bill because nobody wants to be seen as giving rights to terrorists. Anybody who voted against that bill is going to have it used against them in the next election cycle. It wasn't about supporting Bush, it was about saving their own asses. Politicians aren't as stupid as you think.
     
  8. Artyboy

    Artyboy Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of

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    You're right. They're MORE stupid than I thought they are. And they obviously don't give a fuck about the people.
     
  9. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    Not trying to condone the bill, but I thought it was only non-citizens that he's able to detain.
     
  10. Artyboy

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    They can detain anyone, including citizens.
     

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