Are these temps bad?

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  1. Zak8022

    Zak8022 New Member

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    I dont know shit about what temps are good/bad for different parts of my comp. I know i should know... but i'm here to learn.

    The follow is what my bios reported after gaming which somehow spawned some weird restarting problems:

    Power 62*C = 143*F
    System 38*C = ~100*F
    CPU 61*C = 141*F

    AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (stock heatsink and fan)
    PC Chips W30
    DiabloTek 500W PSU

    My mobo sucks, so i cant run MotherboardMonitor, cuz it isnt supported. Are these way out of line? ~150*F seems really hot to me.
     
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    well, it depends what your chip is to determine where that lands. It is quite hot, but it's not unthinkable. your case and psu are too hot, however.
     
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    Zak8022 New Member

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    I updated my first post with some specs. Given that this rig is getting old, and that i'm not real willing to put too much more $$ into it, is there anything i can do to bring temps down?
     
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    holy shit for an Athlon XP those temps are dangerous.

    immediately take the system apart and clean out all the dust. disassemble the HSF assembly. Re-apply thermal paste. Consider a better case.
     
  5. c_lokey

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    yes. high temperatures are always bad regardless what chip you have.

    best to keep them low as you can.
     
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    Great.

    Not what i wanted to hear... but thanks. A new case is pretty much out... not worth it to me. I'll try and get some new thermal paste and rebuild things this weekend maybe.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    Try leaving the side of the case off. :dunno:
     
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    For that CPU the temps are high. I've got the same CPU.
    I've never used a stock cooler with mine....mine didn't come with a cooler.
    I've got a Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu....keeps it very cool and quiet.

    A new case could help. I went from a crappy case with crappy ventilation, to a Antec Performance One P160W with only 1 case fan (compared to 4 in the crappy case) my temps have dropped...and could drop even more I'll bet if I added a fan in front.


    Get Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound.
     
  9. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    If your computer can run at 100% load for a half hour or so without overheating and shutting off (such as when running PCMark/3DMark) then it's not too hot.
     
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    do *not* use artic silver;
     
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    (sigh) :rolleyes:
     
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    It has led to countless hardware *failures* and doesn't xmit heat any better than the regular stuff!
     
  13. deusexaethera

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    Arctic Silver causes hardware failures? That's news to me, and my friends and family too. I've got the stuff on CPUs, chipsets, RAM heat spreaders, video memory, etc. Where have you seen people griping about the stuff?

    EDIT: It's also the only heatsink goop that I've ever found that also comes in epoxy form, for those pesky small ICs.
     
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    It seems to be weird with its problems... completely inconsistent.

    I played C&C3 for around 2 hours straight last night and didnt give me a single problem. I forgot to reboot and check temps right after tho... i'll try it out tonight.

    Jolly, what kind of thermal paste (or whatever the proper term is) would you suggest, instead of AC?
     
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    DaveyD Fuck Ohio State, son

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    Typical OT thread right here, just like the ram one. Everyone says get X type of thing. But one loner, says get Y. :rolleyes:
     
  16. deusexaethera

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    If you have an Asus motherboard, install Asus PC Probe.
    If you have an Intel motherboard, install CPU-Z. (I think that's the name, anyway.)
    Otherwise, install Motherboard Monitor.

    That way you can track your temperatures without rebooting.

    No error is completely random. Either it's heat-related, or disk-error related, or RAM-error related, or driver-related. If it were an electrical problem in the CPU, 99 times out of 100 it wouldn't boot up ever again, but I suppose it's always possible you have a very slight defect. CPU errors tend to be pretty heat-sensitive, though.
     
  17. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I've had good experiences with it as well. I wonder if it's not an issue of people using too much of it.
    You can't apply the stuff on with a trowel and expect good results.

    My core temps stay at or below 41c, which is about 105 degrees fahrenheit, on an E6600 with stock cooling.

    And I used Arctic Silver 5 on it.
     
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    And what would i install if i have a PC Chips mobo? No Asus or Intel here... i made a shitty choice back in the day and now i'm paying for it.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    You seriously could try leaving the side of the case off.

    As long as you don't have a pet that can get to that area,
    you could experience lower temps by as much as 10 degrees fahrenheit or more with the side off.
     
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    The difference is that I know what I'm doing :mamoru:
     
  21. deusexaethera

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    I just told you what to install. Go back and read it again.
     
  22. deusexaethera

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    You know, I tried that with my old case and it didn't do shit. Then I bought a larger case and the temps dropped dramatically. Same number of vents, same amount of hardware...fuck, I dunno. The only thing I can think of is that the new motherboard I put all my hardware onto has the CPU sticking halfway up the PSU's ass, so all the hot air coming off the CPU heatsink gets sucked out of the case instantly.

    Oh, and I put my SATA RAID into a cage with a dedicated exhaust fan to keep the hard drives from radiating heat into the case.
     
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    I see no Asus.
    I see no Intel.
    I see i already stated i cant run MoboMonitor.
    Go back and read my posts again.

    I may not be the best at this shit, but i'm pretty sure my reading comprehension is up to par.
     
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    Oh, and i'm going to try to talk my wife into letting me get the NAS box i've been wanting.... which would alleviate 3 HDs that are currently in the desktop in question. No doubt they are creating lots o heat, even tho they are in power save most of the time.
     
  25. deusexaethera

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    Aw dammit...last line of the first post in the thread.

    Try SpeedFan then. Failing that, buy a meat thermometer and use thermal epoxy (such as *gasp* Arctic Silver) to attach the heat probe to your CPU heatsink.
     

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