Are there any Mini ITX fans here?

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  1. Grouch

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    Im trying to do some very early priceing on a mini itx NES system I hoping to build sometime in the not to distant future. Here are the specs i've come up with and some estamated (high to factor tax/shipping). Its not intended to be a gaming rig or anything but i wanted to have some hardware that I will last me a while for very light gaming and net surfing.

    $100 60GB 5400rpm Notebook Hard Drive for Toshiba

    $400 Commell LV-673 Intel Pentium M Mini-ITX Board
    $170 gigaram (2x1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 400 (PC2 3200)

    $90 Morex 150W Power Kit for mini-ITX Motherboards

    $90 SONY Slim DVD Burner Black IDE Model DWQ58A - OEM

    $220 Intel Pentium M 740 Dothan 1.73GHz 533MHz FSB 2MB L2 Cache Socket 478 Processor - Retail

    $55 BIOSTAR V7302EL16 Geforce 7300LE Supporting 256MB

    Total = 1125 so I'll round up to 1200 just to be safe.

    Any opinions on the selection? Things I should do diferent?
     
  2. P07r0457

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    maybe it's just me but that mobo seems REALLY expensive.

    What is your goal? because a uATX would be a better choice for cost-effectiveness.
     
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    I'm a fan of Mini-ITX, but I haven't bought anything yet. They are by no means a gaming-quality system, unless all you want to do is run ROM emulators, but there have been lots of people that have built media centers and file/web servers using Mini-ITX.

    I saw a nice project on www.mini-itx.com where a guy took an old external SCSI case, put a Mini-ITX board in it, and hooked up a bunch of hard drives and a router inside the case to make himself a file server and DHCP/DNS server that was smaller than his main computer. I'd like to duplicate that one using VIA's dual-CPU 1GHz board. 2x 1GHz plus maybe 1GB of RAM should be more than enough to handle any file storage and compression that I'd ever need such a machine for.

    And yes Jolly, I'd install a RAID card. :fawk:
     
  4. Grouch

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    It's $380 on itx outlet. But like i said my prices are adjusted for tax and shipping
     
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    ITXs neat for embedded systems.
     
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    yeah but embeddeds are slow. :hs:
     
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    No, they're FAST. Fast for what they do.
     
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    yeah no not really.
     
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    Yeah, totally. A gigabit ITX can handle anything you would want to throw at it.
     
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    Gigabit makes an embedded that will play far cry at 1600x1200 with full AA/AF?
     
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    That is not an embedded application. ITX is not appropriate. I amend to say they handle anything you would REASONABLY want to throw at them. They're just crazy fast for what they are used for.
     
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    itx is good for carputers, cash registers, kiosks, net-surfing terminals, routers, etc. Very fast for that.
     
  14. Grouch

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    right. but its still not going to be as fast as something like i've posted.
     
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    Well, I think it's stupid to waste all that money on an itx when for LESS you can get a uATX setup that is more powerful, won't overhead like a mofo, and is only marginally larger.
     
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    And a Lamborghini can go 300km/h, but if you hook a trailer up to it you'll burn out the gearbox within 500 miles. The dual-1GHz file server I talked about wanting to build could compress and store files like nobody's business, without degrading the performance of my main PC while playing WoW (or something similar). But if I tried to run WoW on the file server, I'd hang myself in short order. Everything has its purpose.
     
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    It's about as stupid as spending $100 on a polished Silverstone case when a $30 Antec will hold your computer just as effectively. Small is nifty; nifty is expensive; hence small is expensive.
     
  18. Grouch

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    right. and thats not my purpose. I thought that was clear from the start. But an EPIA dual 1GH would suck ass for WoW anyways.
     
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    Actually, no. I have previously demonstrated how a mid-range case such as a Lian Li PC-6070, Coolermaster CMStacker, or Silverstone TJ-04 can decrease noise, increase cooling, and increase longevity of components.

    Grounding is one category that is often overlooked in cases, for example. And that's not even getting into physical quality, such as proper laser cuts, and double-rolled edges.
     
  20. Grouch

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    Did you actually read what its going into? Can i fit an uATX in an NES case, with a dvd drive, HD, and and low pro video card?
     
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    what is the point of doing so?

    And you'll probably overheat that system in short-order... Not to mention improper grounding and nothing to act as a faraday cage.
     
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    Yeah, I said it would suck for WoW. I'm curious why you started bashing the very product you want to buy, anyway.
     
  23. Grouch

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    To put it in a NES. :ugh:

    Whats the point of making any small system?

    Plenty of people have done it, creating stable systems that dont over heat the second minesweeper is loaded up.
     
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    :ugh: Im not entending to buy an embedded.
     
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    So you have no reasonable purpose in doing this? Just because you saw someone else do it?

    Some do have reasons... Router, for example. Or a carputer. However, the "gaming" systems tend to use uATX platforms -- and even then cooling is a major concern.
     

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