Are notebooks doomed to be heavy and slow?

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  1. Peyomp

    Peyomp New Member

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    I've been getting pissed at my Macbook Pro lately for being fucking slow. Two keys went out on it. Work bought me a mini, I xferred all my shit over to it, and sent the MacBook in for repair.

    Now, I swear to god I am much more productive on this thing. The Macbook was slow as fuck, lots of pinwheels. This thing not at all.

    Have I been living in la la land using the Macbook as my primary workstation, when desktop speed was available all along?
     
  2. P07r0457

    P07r0457 New Member

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    I am easily more productive (by a large margin) on a desktop. It is definitely a fact. I need a laptop for mobility, but when I'm at home or the office, I'm on a full-size workstation.
     
  3. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I'll probably never have that problem, because notebook keyboards are all too small for my hands.
    Unless someone starts making one with an ergo keyboard, that is.
    And the odds of that happening on a model that I actually want is slim to nothing.
     
  4. trouphaz

    trouphaz New Member

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    yes, laptops will be heavy and slow until someone comes up with a new type of battery that is lighter and lasts longer. in almost every case, more speed = more heat = more power usage = shorter battery life. i think some companies have desktop replacement laptops that are barely portable, have horrendous battery life and are super expensive.

    if you need performance, you need a desktop.
     
  5. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    That might be right around the corner. Read up on nano capacitors.
     
  6. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Laptops will always be slower than comparably-priced desktops. Regardless of any advances in battery technology, desktops will always have an infinite supply of power at their disposal, which means their transistors will always have the capacity to switch state faster.

    Soothsaying aside, yeah, you should have been doing your work on a desktop. For now, laptops still lag significantly behind because they have significantly less power to work with, a problem made even worse by the fact that nobody wants a heavy laptop. That's why I refuse to buy a new one, because I know it will be obsolete as soon as I take it out of the box.
     
  7. TheRider

    TheRider Geeky OT Supporter

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    I'm actually surprised that the mini is all that much faster than the Macbook pro, the mini uses a mobile cpu I think and a mobile hard drive (slow one to boot). If you had a beefy Macbook pro, I would have thought it would be faster than the mini.
     
  8. deusexaethera

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    The Mini can use a faster hard drive, though, because it's plugged into the wall. The Macbook probably has a 5400rpm hard drive, and possibly a slower motherboard too.
     
  9. trouphaz

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    so, i have a question, what exactly were you doing on your macbook pro that made it feel slow? that is one thing i just don't understand. i used a macbook pro for a few months and rarely got the beach ball other than with firefox and i always had a VMWare XP session up. now, to be fair i did have 4Gb of memory in it, but still it ran fine for all of my work.
     
  10. Peyomp

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    $3000 Macbook Pro : $700 Mac Mini

    The Mini kicks its ass. With half the RAM.
     
  11. Peyomp

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    Mail.app, MySQL, Perl/Catalyst, Firefox (with too many tabs), Adium, Psi (for corporate Jabber), Colloquy (for IRC technical support), several shells open (mysql client, Catalyst console, one more for ssh, etc.), Stickies for remembering stuff, openvpns all over the place, and Komodo IDE/subversion going.

    Its pretty slow with that shit open, a lot of times. Then there is stuff I have to open sometimes: Excel, Word, Pages, etc.

    Although that computer is in for repair, and I think it was having issues in general, as it should be able to handle all that.
     
  12. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Well, there you go. Case in point.

    Do they make dual- or quad-core Macbooks yet? Also, do you have the option to put a better hard drive in it? Everybody I know who's had the balls to replace their laptop hard drives have said it makes a big difference in performance -- not surprising considering laptop drives are usually 5400rpm or lower to conserve power.
     
  13. P07r0457

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    macbook pros are core2duo.
     
  14. Coottie

    Coottie BOOMER......SOONER OT Supporter

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    Hmm...Dell came to my house and fixed my shit right there. :p
     
  15. SLED

    SLED build an idiot proof device and someone else will

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    fresh install with the mini?
     
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    5Gen_Prelude There might not be an "I" in the word "Team", but

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    Here we go.
     
  17. deusexaethera

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    Really? Did they replace it with a Lenovo, or what?
     
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    Macbook Pro Core Duo. Mac Mini Core 2 Duo. Same clock speed. Fresh install of 10.5 on the Mini, old install of 10.4 on the pro.
     
  20. Coottie

    Coottie BOOMER......SOONER OT Supporter

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    Fuck no...those are the suxxors. They just replaced the Nvidia card that took a shit.
     
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    Fuck Apple. I'm never buying another one. They're going to fucking gouge me and charge me a butt load to repair my Macbook because it is out of warranty and there is a 1 year old dent in the case.
     
  23. CyberBullets

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    APP > You.

    So far they replaced my power pack that I ripped the cord out of. Top case replacement when I cracked it from general use.
     
  24. Coottie

    Coottie BOOMER......SOONER OT Supporter

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    So much for Apple's "just working". :rofl:

    But seriously, I got a 3 year, in home warranty including accidental spills, drops and damage, from dell for like $50.

    Also, not only did dell come to my house, I mentioned to him that I never got the install disks and the next time he came, he brought them with him.

    For all the dell hate in this forum, they kicked ass.
     
  25. lowfat

    lowfat 24/Mac/SciFi/PC Crew OT Supporter

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    Then you are doing something wrong. The MBP is more powerful in all fronts.

    If you get a spinning wheel, it is a software issue has nothing to do with the hardware.
     

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